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Wolfgang Denk #831 Hello, IBM has published several versions of their PIBS (PowerPC Initialization and Boot Software) boot loader source code with a license header like this: ---------- snip ---------- This source code has been made available to you by IBM on an AS-IS basis. Anyone receiving this source is licensed under IBM copyrights to use it in any way he or she deems fit, including copying it, modifying it, compiling it, and redistributing it either with or without modifications. No license under IBM patents or patent applications is to be implied by the copyright license. Any user of this software should understand that IBM cannot provide technical support for this software and will not be responsible for any consequences resulting from the use of this software. Any person who transfers this source code or any derivative work must include the IBM copyright notice, this paragraph, and the preceding two paragraphs in the transferred software. COPYRIGHT I B M CORPORATION 2002 LICENSED MATERIAL - PROGRAM PROPERTY OF I B M ---------- snip ---------- I have another version of this license text dated 1995. Has any of these been evaluated before? I can't find a SPDX License Identifier for this? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
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Manbeck, Jack #832 Wolfgang, As far as I can recall they have not been looked at. Someone on the legal team who maintains the list may have a better idea. Do you have links to some of the files so we can look at them? Regards, Jack Manbeck Texas Instruments toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Denk Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:24 AM To: spdx@... Subject: PIBS License Identifier Hello, IBM has published several versions of their PIBS (PowerPC Initialization and Boot Software) boot loader source code with a license header like this: ---------- snip ---------- This source code has been made available to you by IBM on an AS-IS basis. Anyone receiving this source is licensed under IBM copyrights to use it in any way he or she deems fit, including copying it, modifying it, compiling it, and redistributing it either with or without modifications. No license under IBM patents or patent applications is to be implied by the copyright license. Any user of this software should understand that IBM cannot provide technical support for this software and will not be responsible for any consequences resulting from the use of this software. Any person who transfers this source code or any derivative work must include the IBM copyright notice, this paragraph, and the preceding two paragraphs in the transferred software. COPYRIGHT I B M CORPORATION 2002 LICENSED MATERIAL - PROGRAM PROPERTY OF I B M ---------- snip ---------- I have another version of this license text dated 1995. Has any of these been evaluated before? I can't find a SPDX License Identifier for this? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. _______________________________________________ Spdx mailing list Spdx@... https://lists.spdx.org/mailman/listinfo/spdx
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Wolfgang Denk #833 Dear Jack, In message <858B013A986C4F43A8A43AF62F39E5660CCEE5D7@...> you wrote: As far as I can recall they have not been looked at. Someone on the legal team who maintains the list may have a better idea. Do you have links to some of the files so we can look at them? Unfortunately I cannot find any still working links to the actual PIBS software; Allt here is left is some "PIBS Overview" document at [1] which mentions that PIBS is licensed using an "IBM proprietary open source license." The best reference that is publicly online available appears to be these files [2], [3] and [4] in U-Boot which were derived from some PIBS code. [1] https://www-01.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/BD4A044F267FE8BC87256F820055C6CF/$file/pibs_overview.pdf [2] http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=arch/powerpc/cpu/ppc4xx/4xx_pci.c;h=2ca355b1347969cca6ac4b0bd355329c51dd1fc0;hb=9fab4bf4cc077c21e43941866f3f2c196f28670d [3] http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=arch/powerpc/cpu/ppc4xx/4xx_uart.c;h=1ad19abff6db2138dea7287b6eeecb840418d601;hb=9fab4bf4cc077c21e43941866f3f2c196f28670d [4] http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=arch/powerpc/cpu/ppc4xx/miiphy.c;h=297155fdafa064b955e53e9832de93bfb0cfb85b;hb=9fab4bf4cc077c21e43941866f3f2c196f28670d Hope this helps. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@... The human race is a race of cowards; and I am not only marching in that procession but carrying a banner. - Mark Twain
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Jilayne Lovejoy <lovejoylids@...> #847 Hello Wolfgang, We are adding this license to the about-to-be-released version 1.19 of the SPDX License LIst and I had a couple things I wanted to share with you. 1) it was suggested to use the short identifier: "ibm-pibs" - do you have any objection to "IBM-pibs"? The reason being that all other SPDX License List short identifiers tend towards using capital letters unless spelling a word. I'd prefer to be consistent to this end, but it's not a major sticking point either way (in other words, if you are already using the all-lower-case short identifier, I don't see why we can't adopt that to the SPDX License List - if anyone on the Legal Team disagrees with me, please speak up) 2) in regards to the two different copyright dates you mentioned below (2002 and 1995) - I have compared the actual text of the 2002 version you listed in this email and the 1995 version you provided links to in a subsequent email and the only difference is the date itself. In this case, the SPDX License List matching guidelines would equate these two license as the same, as this is only a copyright notice year difference, not a difference in the substantive text of the license. If you could get back to me as to the first item as soon as possible, that would be great. Cheers, Jilayne Lovejoy SPDX Legal Team lead toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Jul 28, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Wolfgang Denk <wd@...> wrote: Hello, IBM has published several versions of their PIBS (PowerPC Initialization and Boot Software) boot loader source code with a license header like this: ---------- snip ---------- This source code has been made available to you by IBM on an AS-IS basis. Anyone receiving this source is licensed under IBM copyrights to use it in any way he or she deems fit, including copying it, modifying it, compiling it, and redistributing it either with or without modifications. No license under IBM patents or patent applications is to be implied by the copyright license. Any user of this software should understand that IBM cannot provide technical support for this software and will not be responsible for any consequences resulting from the use of this software. Any person who transfers this source code or any derivative work must include the IBM copyright notice, this paragraph, and the preceding two paragraphs in the transferred software. COPYRIGHT I B M CORPORATION 2002 LICENSED MATERIAL - PROGRAM PROPERTY OF I B M ---------- snip ---------- I have another version of this license text dated 1995. Has any of these been evaluated before? I can't find a SPDX License Identifier for this? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. _______________________________________________ Spdx mailing list Spdx@... https://lists.spdx.org/mailman/listinfo/spdx
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Wolfgang Denk #848 Dear Jilayne, In message <BDE6BBEB-1FDC-4B89-9576-7BDC59BD4577@...> you wrote: We are adding this license to the about-to-be-released version 1.19 of the SPDX License LIst and I had a couple things I wanted to share with you. Thanks - much appreciated. 1) it was suggested to use the short identifier: "ibm-pibs" - do you have any objection to "IBM-pibs"? The reason being that all other SPDX License List short identifiers tend towards using capital letters unless spelling a word. I'd prefer to be consistent to this end, but it's not a major sticking point either way (in other words, if you are already using the all-lower-case short identifier, I don't see why we can't adopt that to the SPDX License List - if anyone on the Legal Team disagrees with me, please speak up) I like consistency, too, so please feel free to use "IBM-pibs". the necessary change to the U_boot code is trivial, and was expected, as I was aware that I was using an self-made name. So no objections from my side. 2) in regards to the two different copyright dates you mentioned below (2002 and 1995) - I have compared the actual text of the 2002 version you listed in this email and the 1995 version you provided links to in a subsequent email and the only difference is the date itself. In this case, the SPDX License List matching guidelines would equate these two license as the same, as this is only a copyright notice year difference, not a difference in the substantive text of the license. Agreed. I think I could find some more versions of this license if I dig deeper in our old code archives, but those I've seen so far all differ in the date only. So your suggestion makes perfect sense. If you could get back to me as to the first item as soon as possible, that would be great. Thanks for your help with that! Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@... Be kind to unkind people - they need it the most.
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