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fossbazaar wiki and LinuxCon followup

Tom "spot" Callaway
 

Just out of curiousity, what kind of wiki is FOSSBazaar using? It
doesn't seem very full featured, so a lot of what I discussed doing at
LinuxCon is going to be much more complicated.

However, assuming that the wiki technology we use is flexible, I went
ahead and implemented a very rough (and incomplete mockup) on the Fedora
wiki (we're using mediawiki, which I know is capable of doing everything
I'd described).

Please take a look at it and let me know if it is something interesting
to the group.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TomCallaway/SPDX_License_List

I put some notes there as well to explain things. If you have questions,
hit me. :)

~tom

Bob Gobeille
 

Drupal

On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote:

Just out of curiousity, what kind of wiki is FOSSBazaar using? It
doesn't seem very full featured, so a lot of what I discussed doing at
LinuxCon is going to be much more complicated.

Tom "spot" Callaway
 

On 08/24/2010 04:12 PM, Bob Gobeille wrote:
Drupal
Drupal isn't really a wiki, it's a CMS. That distinction is important
here, because it means we can't do anything besides basic HTML.

~spot

Bob Gobeille
 

On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote:

On 08/24/2010 04:12 PM, Bob Gobeille wrote:
Drupal
Drupal isn't really a wiki, it's a CMS. That distinction is important
here, because it means we can't do anything besides basic HTML.
I realized you would say this right after I hit send. I was thinking there was a drupal wiki module. But the only thing I see is:
http://www.interestingto.me.uk/DrupalWikiModule

I should have left the answer to tbm who set it up.

bobg

Tom "spot" Callaway
 

On 08/24/2010 04:37 PM, Bob Gobeille wrote:

On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote:

On 08/24/2010 04:12 PM, Bob Gobeille wrote:
Drupal
Drupal isn't really a wiki, it's a CMS. That distinction is important
here, because it means we can't do anything besides basic HTML.
I realized you would say this right after I hit send. I was thinking there was a drupal wiki module. But the only thing I see is:
http://www.interestingto.me.uk/DrupalWikiModule

I should have left the answer to tbm who set it up.
Fair enough. :)

I'm still hopeful that there is some wiki intelligence in addition to
Drupal already present, and if not, I can make the case for us to move
to mediawiki. ;)

~tom

Martin Michlmayr
 

* Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa@...> [2010-08-24 21:09]:
I should have left the answer to tbm who set it up.
Fair enough. :)

I'm still hopeful that there is some wiki intelligence in addition to
Drupal already present, and if not, I can make the case for us to move
to mediawiki. ;)
Bob's right. We're using Drupal and the Drupal wiki module.

What functionality do you need that's currently not there?
--
Martin Michlmayr
Open Source Program Office, Hewlett-Packard

Tom "spot" Callaway
 

On 08/24/2010 05:17 PM, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa@...> [2010-08-24 21:09]:
I should have left the answer to tbm who set it up.
Fair enough. :)

I'm still hopeful that there is some wiki intelligence in addition to
Drupal already present, and if not, I can make the case for us to move
to mediawiki. ;)
Bob's right. We're using Drupal and the Drupal wiki module.

What functionality do you need that's currently not there?
Well, there are a few things:

1. New page creation is really awkward.
2. There is no native wiki link syntax, so I would end up making a lot
of long URLs that aren't useful.
3. There is no native wiki section syntax, so I'd have to write a lot
more html than I'd prefer.
4. There is no wiki syntax for embedding one page in another. so I can't
really do what I've done in the mockup that I made on fedoraproject.org
(see my original email).
5. There are no default target mappings to sections (see #3), so I'd
have to hardcode them.

Drupal is a great CMS, but it is not such a great wiki.

~tom

Martin Michlmayr
 

* Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa@...> [2010-08-24 21:26]:
Drupal is a great CMS, but it is not such a great wiki.
Sure, I'd agree with that. The Drupal wiki functionality has been
enough for our needs so far but MediaWiki (or another proper wiki) is
definitely more powerful.

I've installed MediaWiki on spdx.org now so you can play around with
it there. If we decide this is the way to go, we can point
spdx.org/wiki to it. I've installed the AuthDrupal extension so you
can log into the MediaWiki with your spdx.org account.

http://spdx.org/mediawiki/

--
Martin Michlmayr
Open Source Program Office, Hewlett-Packard

Tom "spot" Callaway
 

On 08/31/2010 08:53 AM, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa@...> [2010-08-24 21:26]:
Drupal is a great CMS, but it is not such a great wiki.
Sure, I'd agree with that. The Drupal wiki functionality has been
enough for our needs so far but MediaWiki (or another proper wiki) is
definitely more powerful.

I've installed MediaWiki on spdx.org now so you can play around with
it there. If we decide this is the way to go, we can point
spdx.org/wiki to it. I've installed the AuthDrupal extension so you
can log into the MediaWiki with your spdx.org account.

http://spdx.org/mediawiki/
This is fantastic, thanks Martin! I'll bring the content from Fedora
over to the spdx.org site this week.

Apologies for missing last Thursday's meeting (Thursdays are... busy for
me). Was there any feedback on the mockups I did?

~tom