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Philip Odence #575 Sorry for the excessive email of late, but it comes of our prepping for the upcoming Collaboration Summit and SPDX Forum. Attached are a couple of slides to help us frame today's call. Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) From: Phil Odence <podence@...> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:03:38 -0500 To: <spdx@...>, <spdx-tech@...>, <spdx-legal@...>, <spdx-biz@...> Subject: Special SPDX Adoption Meeting on Wednesday - PLEASE READ NOTE WE WILL BE USING A DIFFERENT DIAL IN FOR THIS MEEING Meeting Time: Thurs, March 29, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF IMPORTANT Kim is out next week, so in the time normally reserved for the Business Team meeting, we will have a dedicated discussion about an important topic that came up in the General Meeting: Adoption of SPDX. I encourage members of all teams to attend, if possible. Before the upcoming public gatherings at which we will be presenting SPDX Collaboration Summit and the Forum, we want to get as much alignment as possible on the way we will talk about adoption and the SPDX roadmap. A couple specifics we discussed in the Thursday call: While we all feel that V1.0 is a great step forward, some companies are feeling like they can not adopt SPDX until the 2.0 release which will add hierarchy and signing capability. There's been a lot of discussion over the last few months in the Business and Tech Teams about backward compatibility. In any development process, this requirement is a constraint on the next release. On the other hand, adopters of software (and specs) want the future comfort of a dedication to backward compatibility. For a variety of reasons, there has been a ton of great work, but little production adoption of 1.0. With 2.0 slated for release in August (fingers crossed), it's reasonable to revisit how strongly we want to emphasize backward compatibility. Should be a very interesting discussion and an important one to air before the upcoming meetings. An hour is short, so I don't expect detailed resolution, but we can make progress in that direction and get gauge sufficient to help speakers at the events represent the organization. Best to all, Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) SPDX.pdf SPDX.pdf
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Steve Cropper (stcroppe) <stcroppe@...> #576 Thanks Phil: I have attached a couple of slides for our input to the discussion. Steve toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: spdx-biz-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-biz-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Philip Odence Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:08 AM To: spdx@...; spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; spdx-biz@... Subject: Today's SPDX Call Importance: High Sorry for the excessive email of late, but it comes of our prepping for the upcoming Collaboration Summit and SPDX Forum. Attached are a couple of slides to help us frame today's call. Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) From: Phil Odence <podence@...> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:03:38 -0500 To: <spdx@...>, <spdx-tech@...>, <spdx-legal@...>, <spdx-biz@...> Subject: Special SPDX Adoption Meeting on Wednesday - PLEASE READ NOTE WE WILL BE USING A DIFFERENT DIAL IN FOR THIS MEEING Meeting Time: Thurs, March 29, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF IMPORTANT Kim is out next week, so in the time normally reserved for the Business Team meeting, we will have a dedicated discussion about an important topic that came up in the General Meeting: Adoption of SPDX. I encourage members of all teams to attend, if possible. Before the upcoming public gatherings at which we will be presenting SPDX Collaboration Summit and the Forum, we want to get as much alignment as possible on the way we will talk about adoption and the SPDX roadmap. A couple specifics we discussed in the Thursday call: While we all feel that V1.0 is a great step forward, some companies are feeling like they can not adopt SPDX until the 2.0 release which will add hierarchy and signing capability. There's been a lot of discussion over the last few months in the Business and Tech Teams about backward compatibility. In any development process, this requirement is a constraint on the next release. On the other hand, adopters of software (and specs) want the future comfort of a dedication to backward compatibility. For a variety of reasons, there has been a ton of great work, but little production adoption of 1.0. With 2.0 slated for release in August (fingers crossed), it's reasonable to revisit how strongly we want to emphasize backward compatibility. Should be a very interesting discussion and an important one to air before the upcoming meetings. An hour is short, so I don't expect detailed resolution, but we can make progress in that direction and get gauge sufficient to help speakers at the events represent the organization. Best to all, Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) SPDX 1 v 2-Mar282012.pdf SPDX 1 v 2-Mar282012.pdf
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Steve Cropper (stcroppe) <stcroppe@...> #577 Folks: Many thanks to those of you who participated in today’s meeting. I wanted to send out the wrap up next steps that I proposed and get feedback incase I missed, or misstated something. The takeaways from today’s meeting that we all feel the team should address face to face during the Conference next week are: 1. To discuss roadmap and vision with a view to accelerating adoption and looking at a timeline for 2.x, 3.x and related objectives. 2. Take time to build on and review the use case thread started by Tech team last Tuesday and seek other pain points/concerns folks have. 3. Reflect on the Supply Chain Summit Agenda with points 1 and 2 in mind. Looking forward to seeing those of you attending next week in person. Regards Steve From: spdx-biz-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-biz-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Philip Odence Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:08 AM To: spdx@...; spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; spdx-biz@... Subject: Today's SPDX Call Importance: High Sorry for the excessive email of late, but it comes of our prepping for the upcoming Collaboration Summit and SPDX Forum. Attached are a couple of slides to help us frame today's call. Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) From: Phil Odence <podence@...> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:03:38 -0500 To: <spdx@...>, <spdx-tech@...>, <spdx-legal@...>, <spdx-biz@...> Subject: Special SPDX Adoption Meeting on Wednesday - PLEASE READ NOTE WE WILL BE USING A DIFFERENT DIAL IN FOR THIS MEEING Meeting Time: Thurs, March 29, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF IMPORTANT Kim is out next week, so in the time normally reserved for the Business Team meeting, we will have a dedicated discussion about an important topic that came up in the General Meeting: Adoption of SPDX. I encourage members of all teams to attend, if possible. Before the upcoming public gatherings at which we will be presenting SPDX Collaboration Summit and the Forum, we want to get as much alignment as possible on the way we will talk about adoption and the SPDX roadmap. A couple specifics we discussed in the Thursday call: While we all feel that V1.0 is a great step forward, some companies are feeling like they can not adopt SPDX until the 2.0 release which will add hierarchy and signing capability. There's been a lot of discussion over the last few months in the Business and Tech Teams about backward compatibility. In any development process, this requirement is a constraint on the next release. On the other hand, adopters of software (and specs) want the future comfort of a dedication to backward compatibility. For a variety of reasons, there has been a ton of great work, but little production adoption of 1.0. With 2.0 slated for release in August (fingers crossed), it's reasonable to revisit how strongly we want to emphasize backward compatibility. Should be a very interesting discussion and an important one to air before the upcoming meetings. An hour is short, so I don't expect detailed resolution, but we can make progress in that direction and get gauge sufficient to help speakers at the events represent the organization. Best to all, Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog)
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Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) <scott.lamons@...> #578 Steve, This sounds really good to me. My only minor comment is that we should mostly focus on the objectives and use cases around 2.x and 3.x and not get too caught up on the timeline just yet. As someone else appropriately pointed out that will depend on the commitment and resources that can be brought to bear and it might serve to discourage adoption of 1.x where that makes sense for certain organizations. Regards, Scott toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: spdx-biz-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-biz-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Cropper (stcroppe) Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:09 AM To: Philip Odence; spdx@...; spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; spdx-biz@... Subject: RE: Today's SPDX Call Folks: Many thanks to those of you who participated in today’s meeting. I wanted to send out the wrap up next steps that I proposed and get feedback incase I missed, or misstated something. The takeaways from today’s meeting that we all feel the team should address face to face during the Conference next week are: 1. To discuss roadmap and vision with a view to accelerating adoption and looking at a timeline for 2.x, 3.x and related objectives. 2. Take time to build on and review the use case thread started by Tech team last Tuesday and seek other pain points/concerns folks have. 3. Reflect on the Supply Chain Summit Agenda with points 1 and 2 in mind. Looking forward to seeing those of you attending next week in person. Regards Steve From: spdx-biz-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-biz-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Philip Odence Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:08 AM To: spdx@...; spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; spdx-biz@... Subject: Today's SPDX Call Importance: High Sorry for the excessive email of late, but it comes of our prepping for the upcoming Collaboration Summit and SPDX Forum. Attached are a couple of slides to help us frame today's call. Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) From: Phil Odence <podence@...> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:03:38 -0500 To: <spdx@...>, <spdx-tech@...>, <spdx-legal@...>, <spdx-biz@...> Subject: Special SPDX Adoption Meeting on Wednesday - PLEASE READ NOTE WE WILL BE USING A DIFFERENT DIAL IN FOR THIS MEEING Meeting Time: Thurs, March 29, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF IMPORTANT Kim is out next week, so in the time normally reserved for the Business Team meeting, we will have a dedicated discussion about an important topic that came up in the General Meeting: Adoption of SPDX. I encourage members of all teams to attend, if possible. Before the upcoming public gatherings at which we will be presenting SPDX Collaboration Summit and the Forum, we want to get as much alignment as possible on the way we will talk about adoption and the SPDX roadmap. A couple specifics we discussed in the Thursday call: While we all feel that V1.0 is a great step forward, some companies are feeling like they can not adopt SPDX until the 2.0 release which will add hierarchy and signing capability. There's been a lot of discussion over the last few months in the Business and Tech Teams about backward compatibility. In any development process, this requirement is a constraint on the next release. On the other hand, adopters of software (and specs) want the future comfort of a dedication to backward compatibility. For a variety of reasons, there has been a ton of great work, but little production adoption of 1.0. With 2.0 slated for release in August (fingers crossed), it's reasonable to revisit how strongly we want to emphasize backward compatibility. Should be a very interesting discussion and an important one to air before the upcoming meetings. An hour is short, so I don't expect detailed resolution, but we can make progress in that direction and get gauge sufficient to help speakers at the events represent the organization. Best to all, Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog)
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Esteban Rockett <mgia3940@...> #579 Added 4. Discuss use cases 1.x does solve. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) <scott.lamons@...> wrote: Steve, This sounds really good to me. My only minor comment is that we should mostly focus on the objectives and use cases around 2.x and 3.x and not get too caught up on the timeline just yet. As someone else appropriately pointed out that will depend on the commitment and resources that can be brought to bear and it might serve to discourage adoption of 1.x where that makes sense for certain organizations. Regards, Scott From: spdx-biz-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-biz-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Cropper (stcroppe) Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:09 AM To: Philip Odence; spdx@...; spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; spdx-biz@... Subject: RE: Today's SPDX Call Folks: Many thanks to those of you who participated in today’s meeting. I wanted to send out the wrap up next steps that I proposed and get feedback incase I missed, or misstated something. The takeaways from today’s meeting that we all feel the team should address face to face during the Conference next week are: 1. To discuss roadmap and vision with a view to accelerating adoption and looking at a timeline for 2.x, 3.x and related objectives. 2. Take time to build on and review the use case thread started by Tech team last Tuesday and seek other pain points/concerns folks have. 3. Reflect on the Supply Chain Summit Agenda with points 1 and 2 in mind. Looking forward to seeing those of you attending next week in person. Regards Steve From: spdx-biz-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-biz-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Philip Odence Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:08 AM To: spdx@...; spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; spdx-biz@... Subject: Today's SPDX Call Importance: High Sorry for the excessive email of late, but it comes of our prepping for the upcoming Collaboration Summit and SPDX Forum. Attached are a couple of slides to help us frame today's call. Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) From: Phil Odence <podence@...> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:03:38 -0500 To: <spdx@...>, <spdx-tech@...>, <spdx-legal@...>, <spdx-biz@...> Subject: Special SPDX Adoption Meeting on Wednesday - PLEASE READ NOTE WE WILL BE USING A DIFFERENT DIAL IN FOR THIS MEEING Meeting Time: Thurs, March 29, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF IMPORTANT Kim is out next week, so in the time normally reserved for the Business Team meeting, we will have a dedicated discussion about an important topic that came up in the General Meeting: Adoption of SPDX. I encourage members of all teams to attend, if possible. Before the upcoming public gatherings at which we will be presenting SPDX Collaboration Summit and the Forum, we want to get as much alignment as possible on the way we will talk about adoption and the SPDX roadmap. A couple specifics we discussed in the Thursday call: While we all feel that V1.0 is a great step forward, some companies are feeling like they can not adopt SPDX until the 2.0 release which will add hierarchy and signing capability. There's been a lot of discussion over the last few months in the Business and Tech Teams about backward compatibility. In any development process, this requirement is a constraint on the next release. On the other hand, adopters of software (and specs) want the future comfort of a dedication to backward compatibility. For a variety of reasons, there has been a ton of great work, but little production adoption of 1.0. With 2.0 slated for release in August (fingers crossed), it's reasonable to revisit how strongly we want to emphasize backward compatibility. Should be a very interesting discussion and an important one to air before the upcoming meetings. An hour is short, so I don't expect detailed resolution, but we can make progress in that direction and get gauge sufficient to help speakers at the events represent the organization. Best to all, Phil L. Philip Odence Vice President of Business Development Black Duck Software, Inc. 8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803 Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502 Skype: philip.odence podence@... http://www.blackducksoftware.com http://twitter.com/podence http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog) _______________________________________________ Spdx mailing list Spdx@... https://lists.spdx.org/mailman/listinfo/spdx -- E.A. 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