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Martin Michlmayr
 

* Armijn Hemel <armijn@...> [2010-09-29 20:31]:
But, to actually make it a question: is there an archive available of
the period before August 10?
We used a different mailing list (called package-facts) in the past
and decided not to open up those archives to the public since it was a
closed list. However, if you subscribe to the package-facts list I
will approve you and then you can access the archives.
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Martin Michlmayr
Open Source Program Office, Hewlett-Packard


Philip Odence
 

Done



L. Philip Odence
Vice President of Business Development
Black Duck Software, inc.
265 Winter Street, Waltham, MA 02451
Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502

On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Peter Williams wrote:

A name change would be an improvement.

I see your point about not complicating navigation for existing
participants.  However, having a top level page that basically free of
content, as the participation page is now, is a waste.

Would moving the minutes and spec development links to the top of the
partcipation page and then adding a "Getting Started" section below
those links work?  It would make the navigation links for on going
participation even easier to get to than they are now.  And it would be
really obvious for potential participants how to go about getting started.

Peter

On 9/29/10 2:48 PM, Philip Odence wrote:
Peter,
I'm responsible for the hierarchy, so I'll weigh in. I'd rather change
the name to "Getting Started" or something like that (if it's the
"Guidelines" that bothers you) rather than moving it. I understand it
takes an extra click, but the page contains information that one no
longer needs once signed up and familiar, so why make everyone keep
looking at it?
I'm not hard over on this, but I do think it's better where it is.
Phil



*L. Philip Odence*
Vice President of Business Development
Black Duck Software, inc.
265 Winter Street, Waltham, MA 02451
Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502
podence@... <mailto:podence@...>
http://www.blackducksoftware.com
http://twitter.com/podence
http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence
http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog)

On Sep 29, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Peter Williams wrote:

Does anyone object to moving the content of
<http://www.spdx.org/wiki/spdx/participation-guidelines> to the main
participation page, <http://www.spdx.org/node/2240>? A page named
"guidelines" seems more like a code of conduct than a page containing
the details of how one would go about participating. And the extra
click seem unnecessary.

Peter

On 9/29/10 2:29 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
On 9/29/10 2:16 PM, Armijn Hemel wrote:

https://fossbazaar.org/pipermail/spdx/

Sweet, thanks. I added a link to the participation guidelines page in
the wiki. Hopefully one more link will make google pick it up.

Peter
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Peter Williams <peter.williams@...>
 

A name change would be an improvement.

I see your point about not complicating navigation for existing participants. However, having a top level page that basically free of content, as the participation page is now, is a waste.

Would moving the minutes and spec development links to the top of the partcipation page and then adding a "Getting Started" section below those links work? It would make the navigation links for on going participation even easier to get to than they are now. And it would be really obvious for potential participants how to go about getting started.

Peter

On 9/29/10 2:48 PM, Philip Odence wrote:
Peter,
I'm responsible for the hierarchy, so I'll weigh in. I'd rather change
the name to "Getting Started" or something like that (if it's the
"Guidelines" that bothers you) rather than moving it. I understand it
takes an extra click, but the page contains information that one no
longer needs once signed up and familiar, so why make everyone keep
looking at it?
I'm not hard over on this, but I do think it's better where it is.
Phil



*L. Philip Odence*
Vice President of Business Development
Black Duck Software, inc.
265 Winter Street, Waltham, MA 02451
Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502
podence@... <mailto:podence@...>
http://www.blackducksoftware.com
http://twitter.com/podence
http://www.linkedin.com/in/podence
http://www.networkworld.com/community/odence (my blog)

On Sep 29, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Peter Williams wrote:

Does anyone object to moving the content of
<http://www.spdx.org/wiki/spdx/participation-guidelines> to the main
participation page, <http://www.spdx.org/node/2240>? A page named
"guidelines" seems more like a code of conduct than a page containing
the details of how one would go about participating. And the extra
click seem unnecessary.

Peter

On 9/29/10 2:29 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
On 9/29/10 2:16 PM, Armijn Hemel wrote:

https://fossbazaar.org/pipermail/spdx/
Sweet, thanks. I added a link to the participation guidelines page in
the wiki. Hopefully one more link will make google pick it up.

Peter
_______________________________________________
Spdx mailing list
Spdx@... <mailto:Spdx@...>
https://fossbazaar.org/mailman/listinfo/spdx


Philip Odence
 

Peter,
I'm responsible for the hierarchy, so I'll weigh in. I'd rather change the name to "Getting Started" or something like that (if it's the "Guidelines" that bothers you) rather than moving it. I understand it takes an extra click, but the page contains information that one no longer needs once signed up and familiar, so why make everyone keep looking at it?
I'm not hard over on this, but I do think it's better where it is.
Phil



L. Philip Odence
Vice President of Business Development
Black Duck Software, inc.
265 Winter Street, Waltham, MA 02451
Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502

On Sep 29, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Peter Williams wrote:

Does anyone object to moving the content of
<http://www.spdx.org/wiki/spdx/participation-guidelines> to the main
participation page, <http://www.spdx.org/node/2240>?  A page named
"guidelines" seems more like a code of conduct than a page containing
the details of how one would go about participating.  And the extra
click seem unnecessary.

Peter

On 9/29/10 2:29 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
On 9/29/10 2:16 PM, Armijn Hemel wrote:

https://fossbazaar.org/pipermail/spdx/

Sweet, thanks. I added a link to the participation guidelines page in
the wiki. Hopefully one more link will make google pick it up.

Peter
_______________________________________________
Spdx mailing list
Spdx@...
https://fossbazaar.org/mailman/listinfo/spdx


Peter Williams <peter.williams@...>
 

Does anyone object to moving the content of <http://www.spdx.org/wiki/spdx/participation-guidelines> to the main participation page, <http://www.spdx.org/node/2240>? A page named "guidelines" seems more like a code of conduct than a page containing the details of how one would go about participating. And the extra click seem unnecessary.

Peter

On 9/29/10 2:29 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
On 9/29/10 2:16 PM, Armijn Hemel wrote:

https://fossbazaar.org/pipermail/spdx/
Sweet, thanks. I added a link to the participation guidelines page in
the wiki. Hopefully one more link will make google pick it up.

Peter


Armijn Hemel <armijn@...>
 

On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 16:24 -0400, Philip Odence wrote:
Now that you have appeared in the NY Times with a Boston Red Sox hat
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/business/26ping.html?src=busln, I
feel I must respond quickly.
Actually I was replying to Peter's question. I guess that your mail
client might not have shown that it was a reply.

But, to actually make it a question: is there an archive available of
the period before August 10?

armijn

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Peter Williams <peter.williams@...>
 

On 9/29/10 2:16 PM, Armijn Hemel wrote:

https://fossbazaar.org/pipermail/spdx/
Sweet, thanks. I added a link to the participation guidelines page in the wiki. Hopefully one more link will make google pick it up.

Peter


Philip Odence
 

Armijn,

Now that you have appeared in the NY Times with a Boston Red Sox hat http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/business/26ping.html?src=busln, I feel I must respond quickly.

There are a number of places in SPDX.org that provide links to the mail list sign up, for example:

Click on the mail list sign up link. Then click on the first link that appears on the mail list page https://fossbazaar.org/mailman/listinfo/spdx
and you will be taken to the archive.

Phil

L. Philip Odence
Vice President of Business Development
Black Duck Software, inc.
265 Winter Street, Waltham, MA 02451
Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502

On Sep 29, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Armijn Hemel wrote:

On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 14:04 -0600, Peter Williams wrote:
Is the spdx mailing list archived anywhere?  I was looking to read up
on
the past debate around a particular part of the spec and I was unable
to
locate an archive of the mailing list.

https://fossbazaar.org/pipermail/spdx/

armijn

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Armijn Hemel <armijn@...>
 

On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 14:04 -0600, Peter Williams wrote:
Is the spdx mailing list archived anywhere? I was looking to read up
on
the past debate around a particular part of the spec and I was unable
to
locate an archive of the mailing list.
https://fossbazaar.org/pipermail/spdx/

armijn

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Peter Williams <peter.williams@...>
 

Is the spdx mailing list archived anywhere? I was looking to read up on the past debate around a particular part of the spec and I was unable to locate an archive of the mailing list.

It is crucial that the forum in which so many of the decisions regarding SPDX are made be archived and made available on the web. The lack of an archive on the web make our work quite opaque to anyone who is not currently subscribed. It also hides this effort from people who might be interested because none of it shows up in search engines.

It is possible to turn on an archiving feature in our list server?

Peter Williams
<http://openlogic.com>