Re: A face-to-face meeting in Vancouver?
Kim Weins
Hi Daniel
Since we will be launching SPDX at LinuxCOn Vancouver, we are also planning to schedule a BOF to discuss SPDX. I may have an extra pass for you -- I think we get 5 with our sponsorship and won't need them all. Kim On Fri 7/1/11 1:03 PM, "D M German" <dmg@...> wrote:
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optional effective license of a package.
dmg
hi everybody,
We (the research team I am part of, which includes Armijn) have being building a method/tool to identify dependencies in binaries by observing the build process. One of the test cases we are using is ffmpeg. What makes ffmpeg interesting is that it can be configured and build under three different licenses: LGPLv2.1+, GPLv2+, or GPLv3+. How? you pass a parameter at compilation time that indicates which license you want (by default lgplv2.1+). How would this be described in SPDX? A similar licensing scheme is the FreeBSD kernel. By default is BSD-3 (if I remember correctly) but it can be compiled as GPLv2+. --dmg -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . |
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A face-to-face meeting in Vancouver?
dmg
Hi everybody,
Is there any plan to have a face-to-face meeting in Vancouver during LinuxCon? For me it is very close, so I'll be interested in doing so, even informally. I am probably not going to register for LinuxCon (too expensive for me, but if anybody donates me a pass, I'll be happy to take it :) --dmg -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . |
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FOSSBazaar/SPDX server upgraded
Martin Michlmayr
I performed a system upgrade (Debian 5.0 to 6.0) on the server hosting
FOSSBazaar and SPDX. If you notice and problems with the web site or mailing lists, please let me know. -- Martin Michlmayr Open Source Program Office, Hewlett-Packard |
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Agenda for Thursday General Meeting
Philip Odence
Meeting Time: June 30, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF Administrative Agenda
Technical Team Report - Kate Business Team Report - Kim Legal Team Report - Rockett/Karen Cross Functional Issues – Discussion Approach to bringing V1 to closure by early August- Kim Website update- Kirsten/Pierre/Steve Open Action Items
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SPDX Beta Feedback (and Web Site Redesign)
Kim Weins
9:00 AM - 10:30 AM July 7, 2011 |
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Cancelled: SPDX Business (Rollout) Call 11ET/8PT
Kim Weins
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SPDX Beta Feedback Meeting on Jul 7
Kim Weins
Hi all
We will have a call to review all of the SPDX Beta feedback on Jul 7 at 11 ET/8PT. We will try to get all of the Beta participants on the call. In advance of the call, we will try to get Beta feedback sent out on the email lists. I’m inviting all of the teams, since it will be important to have representation from all the workstreams. This will replace the Business call for that date. We will also extend the time by a half hour so that we can also cover feedback from the website redesign team. Look for the invite, and please attend! Kim Kim Weins | Senior Vice President, Marketing kim.weins@... Follow me on Twitter @KimAtOpenLogic 650 279 0410 | cell www.openlogic.com Follow OpenLogic on Twitter @openlogic |
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Updated Invitation: SPDX Legal Workstream Call 11ET/10CT/8PT @ Wed Jun 22 8am - 9am (spdx@fossbazaar.org)
Esteban Rockett <mgia3940@...>
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Thursday SPDX General Meeting
Philip Odence
Apologies, but once again, I have a conflict and will not be able to join, however Kirsten will (once again) do a fine job chairing in my absence. In addition to reviewing the minutes from the last meeting, please also read over the License Field discussion prior to the meeting http://www.spdx.org/wiki/license-field-discussion. Meeting Time: June 16, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF Administrative Agenda
Technical Team Report - Kate Business Team Report - Kim Legal Team Report - Rockett/Karen Cross Functional Issues – Discussion Website update- Kirsten/Pierre/Steve License Field Discussion from Wiki |
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License Field Discussion
Philip Odence
There have been multiple discussions in different working groups about the nomenclature, meaning and intent of the package license fields. To ensure we are all on the right page, we want ot have some wiki-based discussion about the fields with perhaps some examples and use cases tha that we can capture for documentation, FAQs, etc. We may need to go thru this same exercise at the file level, but let's start here. Go to: |
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Beyond copyright/licensing ?
Olivier Berger <olivier.berger@...>
Hi.
(I'm new here, so pardon me if this is some kind of FAQ.) The SPDX acronym looks quite general, and the charter doesn't seem to limit itself to licensing/copyright matters. However, looking at the material online, it seems to me that it is the main area of development of SPDX. Are there other matters on the work bench ? For instance, I'm working on standardization of the interfaces of tools used by FLOSS developers, and SPDX looks like a major stepping stone for fostering interoperability in the development / QA process, just as it provides a clean reference for identification of packages (licensing issues aside). Think about tracing which distribution packages contain copies of a particular version of a package that exhibits a bug, etc. Is there a summary of the different other aspects SPDX will be addressing, after 1.0, beyond licensing ? Thanks in advance. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER <olivier.berger@...> http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/ - OpenPGP-Id: 2048R/5819D7E8 Ingénieur Recherche - Dept INF Institut TELECOM, SudParis (http://www.it-sudparis.eu/), Evry (France) |
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Re: Update on spdx subscriber numbers
Martin Michlmayr
Here's another update on the mailing list numbers:
spdx: 105 spdz-biz: 21 spdx-legal: 29 spdx-tech: 26 -- Martin Michlmayr Open Source Program Office, Hewlett-Packard |
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SPDX as description for binary deliverables containing OSS artifacts
Mario Tokarz <mario@...>
Hi everyone,
this is a spin off of a discussion I was having with Peter and Garry on the tech mailing list. I am considering how SPDX could form the basis for the following example use case: Customer A ordering a software with company B. B's software is closed source but contains one file under 3-clause BSD. When A gets the executable he may still have 'open source obligations' (like e.g. non-endorsement) from the software even though not actually receiving code. In fact in the scenario outlined here A might not even be entitled to ever see/receive that sourcecode. Still A of course needs to know about the licenses in play (besides those agreed on between A and B upfront) and he might also want to know about possible copyright holders. So, I think what I am describing here can be clearly achieved with a subset of SPDX, as your work has been really diligent. So I would like to discuss with you * whether the usecase makes sense, needs amendment or whether there are similar use cases that I did not address here which could be relevant as well * how such a subset could look like. A subset would necessarily imply changed cardinalities in the SPDX Spec and this would need to be part of SPDX tooling in the long run. This is why I think one could also describe this as an "SPDX Profile". I may still need some time for this, but I can offer to come up with a draft for requirement and then also a subset if this is something you feel SPDX could support. Best regards, Mario -- BMW Car IT GmbH http://www.bmw-carit.de |
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Re: Licensing Workshop at LinuxTag 2011 (XML errors)
Jilayne Lovejoy <jilayne.lovejoy@...>
Yes, I have added this to my list of updates for the next license list
spreadsheet version. This also makes me wonder if there are other "older" licenses that were OSI certified and I may have missed, so I'll check the list of such licenses on the OSI website against our list to be consistent. On 5/31/11 8:12 AM, "Martin Michlmayr" <tbm@...> wrote: * Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@...> [2011-05-26 10:25]:Jilayne Lovejoy | Corporate CounselBTW: Could you add a OSI tag to http://spdx.org/licenses/CPL-1.0?This license is superceeded but it is used for the korn shell and other AT&TJilayne, are you the right person to take care of this? jlovejoy@... 720 240 4545 | phone 720 240 4556 | fax 1 888 OpenLogic | toll free www.openlogic.com OpenLogic, Inc. 10910 W 120th Ave, Suite 450 Broomfield, Colorado 80021 |
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Re: Licensing Workshop at LinuxTag 2011 (XML errors)
Jilayne Lovejoy <jilayne.lovejoy@...>
I will make sure the appropriate change is included in the next version of
the license list spreadsheet, which should be relatively soon! Jilayne On 5/31/11 8:12 AM, "Martin Michlmayr" <tbm@...> wrote: * Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@...> [2011-05-26 10:25]:Jilayne Lovejoy | Corporate CounselBTW: Could you add a OSI tag to http://spdx.org/licenses/CPL-1.0?This license is superceeded but it is used for the korn shell and other AT&TJilayne, are you the right person to take care of this? jlovejoy@... 720 240 4545 | phone 720 240 4556 | fax 1 888 OpenLogic | toll free www.openlogic.com OpenLogic, Inc. 10910 W 120th Ave, Suite 450 Broomfield, Colorado 80021 |
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Re: Licensing Workshop at LinuxTag 2011 (XML errors)
Gary O'Neall
I added 2 bugs in bugzilla: - Bug 811 -Produce an archive of license texts for SPDX licenses - Bug 812 -Add a column to the index of licenses to indicate if a license is OSI approved
I assigned the latter bug to myself. I’ll take a look at this after Beta.
Gary
From: spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Esteban Rockett
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:40 AM To: dmg Cc: Jilayne Lovejoy; cdenicolo@...; sebastian@...; jmbsvicetto@...; Joerg Schilling; hoefel@...; vuntz@...; fatih@...; misc@...; zack@...; amanda.brock@...; n-roeser@...; spdx@...; jsstewar@... Subject: Re: Licensing Workshop at LinuxTag 2011 (XML errors)
agreed. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:36 AM, dmg <dmg@...> wrote: Hi Martin,
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Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder and Agenda.
Philip Odence
I have a conflict and will not be able to join, however Kirsten will do a fine job chairing in my absence.. Meeting Time: June 2, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Conf call dial-in: Conference code: 7812589502 Toll-free dial-in number (U.S. and Canada): (877) 435-0230 International dial-in number: (253) 336-6732 For those dialing in from other regions, a list of toll free numbers can be found: https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/viewNumber.do?ownerNumber=6053870&audioType=RP&viewGa=false&ga=OFF Administrative Agenda
Technical Team Report - Kate Business Team Report - Kim Legal Team Report - Rockett/Karen Cross Functional Issues – Discussion Website update- Kirsten/Pierre/Steve Action Items
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Re: Licensing Workshop at LinuxTag 2011 (XML errors)
Esteban Rockett <mgia3940@...>
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Re: Licensing Workshop at LinuxTag 2011 (XML errors)
dmg
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it will also help to have a simple tar file with all the licenses, each in its own file, and without the HTML tagging. Basically, the actual text of the license. --dmg On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Martin Michlmayr <tbm@...> wrote:
* Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@...> [2011-05-26 10:25]:BTW: Could you add a OSI tag to http://spdx.org/licenses/CPL-1.0?This license is superceeded but it is used for the korn shell and other AT&TJilayne, are you the right person to take care of this? |
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