Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder
Phil Odence
We are still trying to line up a presentation from one of the GSoC students who has not yet presented; that’s up in the air.
I will not be able to join so one of the other Core Team members will host.
Best regards, Phil
GENERAL MEETING
Meeting Time: Thurs, Oct 3, 8am PT / 10 am CT / 11am ET / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
New dial in number: 415-881-1586 No PIN needed
The weblink for screenshare will stay the same at:
Administrative Agenda Attendance Minutes Approval: https://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2019-09-05
Possible GSoC Presentations
Technical Team Report – Kate/Gary
Legal Team Report – Jilayne/Paul
Outreach Team Report – Jack
Any Cross Functional Issues –All
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Re: In favour of what are §4.9–4.11 deprecated?
On nedelja, 28. julij 2019 22:15:26 CEST, Gary O'Neall wrote:
[G.O.] The idea is that there would be a package definition. It could be in a separate SPDX document, or more likely, as a separate SPDX package definition within the same SPDX document. The originating package definition could have the FilesAnalyzed set to false which allows for a rather small number of required fields. The origin could then be indicated by a relationship between the file and the package.I see. Is there already any tooling available to make this actually usable in practice? Sw360, DejaCode? cheers, Matija — P.S. Sorry about the late reply, I had a lot going on in the past few weeks/months. -- gsm: tel:+386.41.849.552 www: https://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suklje@... sip: matija_suklje@... |
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Re: SPDX Survey Results
Ian Kelling
Shane Coughlan <coughlan@...> writes:
Hello all! Hello all!Surveys are great, but there's one important problem with this one. In order to fill out your survey even read the complete questions, it requires downloading and running the google docs proprietary software in a browser which excludes people like myself who choose to avoid running proprietary software whenever possible. Background information about proprietary software in your browser: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.en.html. There are many reasons why it seems wrong to require people to run nonfree software to contribute, I hope its fairly obvious, I can list some if it isn't. -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org |
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Re: Adding a new opendata-focus license?
J Lovejoy
Hi Bastien,
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The process for requesting a new license be added to the SPDX License List is documented here: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md (and happy to get your feedback on the documentation of the process!) By the way - It looks like you sent this to the general mailing list, not the legal mailing list, as this got caught up in our filter. I have released it (obviously), but you might want to make sure you are actually on the legal mailing list here: https://lists.spdx.org/g/spdx-legal (and I’m replying to both lists, but bcc the general list, as we try to keep specific topics to the specific lists) Thanks! Jilayne SPDX legal team co-lead
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Adding a new opendata-focus license?
Dear all,
I'm working for Etalab, the mission for promoting and coordinating Open Data publications in the french public sector. The most commonly used license for french open data is the "Open License", published and maintained by Etalab. Roughly speaking, it is equivalent to a CC-by 4.0. You can read it here: https://www.etalab.gouv.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/open-licence.pdf What is the process to ask and get a SPDX identifier for this license? I am sorry if the question has been raised before, I have been on this list since a few months only. Thanks in advance for any answer! Cheers, -- Bastien Guerry |
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SPDX General Meeting 2019 (updated conference link)
Phil Odence
Uberconference changed their platform; I’ve updated the link below. Please accept this recurring meeting. Thanks, Phil
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I’m extending this recurring meeting to run through 2019. Please accept so it is updated on your calendar, however no need to send a response to me.
New dial in number:
415-881-1586 No PIN needed The weblink for screenshare will stay the same at:
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SPDX Sept General Meeting Minutes
Phil Odence
General Meeting/Minutes/2019-09-05< General Meeting | Minutes · Attendance: 17 · Lead by Phil Odence · Minutes of Aug meeting approved
Contents[hide] · 1 Special Presentations - Hiro Fukuchi, Sony · 3 Legal Team Report - Jilayne/Paul/Steve · 4 Outreach Team Report - Jack Special Presentations - Hiro Fukuchi, Sony[edit]· SPDX- Lite · Open Chain Japan Work Group · Member companies- Toyota, Denso, Panasonic, Pioneer, Sony, Fujitsu, Olympus, Renesas · Common Problem- Can’t get OSS information from suppliers (HW vendors, ODMs, SOC, partners…in Asia (China/Taiwan) and Japan · They don’t have complete information · Don’t have the tools to generate and evaluate · SPDX Lite is part of guidelines · Fits in at a fairly high level of maturity · OpenChain - “Making Process” · SPDX (and OSS tooling) - “Improving Process” · Most suppliers are at low levels of maturity · Looking not to fork, but to expand usage of SPDX Lite · Lite Description · Subset of SPDX · Minimum requirement · Can be manually generated · Proved in actual business use · Scenarios · 1 Unskilled suppliers · Useful at a lower level of maturity than SPDX requires · 2 Non-engineering Staff · More understandable by Legal and Procurement staff. · Skilled suppliers would still use full SPDX · OpenChain compliant suppliers would be sophisticated enough · Question: Is SPDX Lite fully SPDX compliant · Yes, all mandatory fields are included in SPDX Lite plus some of the optional fields may be included. Tech Team Report - Gary[edit]· Spec · Being worked in a GitHub repo · Set up for pull requests for 2.2 · Anyone who has ideas or proposed changes, please submit as a pull request · One in place is SPDX Lite · Proposal is as an Appendix · Thought is a profile for a specific use case · Could be first of a number of profiles · Tools · Successful conclusion to GSoC · All passed · A number of new libraries including Python, Golang · Mentors and students were great · Record number of projects · Challenge now is integrating and putting into production · All legal team tools have been submitted as pull requests · Should be up and running in a month or so. Legal Team Report - Jilayne/Paul/Steve[edit]· Legal Team License Submittal Demo (GSoC) · Video and minutes available · Need to update contribution instructions · Team call today · License List · 3.7 release at end of month · Fewer licenses in release that some recents · Recent discussions have been more high level on principles than specific licenses
Outreach Team Report - Jack[edit]· Survey · Has been out for a few months · 37 responses so far · Will make one more pass · Looking at presenting at Gen Meeting in Nov · Philipe has been talking to the Python community about using SPDX License IDs and expressions in Python package manifest · Could be a model for other communities · …some of which have been using formally or informally · Potentially high leverage · RUST and Go are using sporadically Cross Functional -[edit]· None Attendees[edit]· Phil Odence, Black Duck/Synopsys · Steve Winslow, LF · Gary O’Neall, SourceAuditor · Jack Manbeck, TI · Nicolas Toussaint, Orange · Mark Atwood, Amazon · Jilayne Lovejoy, Canonical · Hiro Fukuchi, Sony · Shinsuke Kato, Panasonic · Philippe Ombrédanne- nexB · Michael Herzog, NexB · Patrice-Emmanuel Schmitz, Trasys International, European Commission · Richard Fontana, Red Hat · Mark Baushke, Juniper · Paul Madick, Dimension Data · Nisha Kumar, VMWare · David Marr, Qualcomm
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Re: Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder...with interesting guest presentations.
Hiro Fukuchi
Hi all,
Thank you for the meeting. I would like to send my slides.
--- Hiro Fukuchi (Hiroyuki.Fukuchi@...) Sony
From: spdx@... <spdx@...>
On Behalf Of Phil Odence
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:15 PM To: spdx@... Cc: Fukuchi, Hiroyuki (Sony) <Hiroyuki.Fukuchi@...> Subject: [spdx] Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder...with interesting guest presentations.
“SPDX Lite”- Hiroyuki Fukuchi from Sony will present a proposal from the OpenChain Japan Workgroup on a slimmed down version of an SPDX doc. Big thanks to Fukuchi-san for joining us at this hour which is not very convenient for him.
We may also have another GSoC presentation; still working on that.
GENERAL MEETING
Meeting Time: Thurs, Sept 5, 8am PT / 10 am CT / 11am ET / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
New dial in number: 415-881-1586 No PIN needed
The weblink for screenshare will stay the same at:
Administrative Agenda Attendance Minutes Approval: https://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2019-08-01
GSoC Presentations
Technical Team Report – Kate/Gary
Legal Team Report – Jilayne/Paul
Outreach Team Report – Jack
Any Cross Functional Issues –All
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Re: meeting now
J Lovejoy
https://www.uberconference.com/room/spdxteam works without login - FYI for anyone still trying to get in!
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meeting now
J Lovejoy
Hi,
Is anyone else having trouble getting into Uberconference? It seems to want a login now, which has never been the case before… Jilayne |
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Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder...with interesting guest presentations.
Phil Odence
“SPDX Lite”- Hiroyuki Fukuchi from Sony will present a proposal from the OpenChain Japan Workgroup on a slimmed down version of an SPDX doc. Big thanks to Fukuchi-san for joining us at this hour which is not very convenient for him.
We may also have another GSoC presentation; still working on that.
GENERAL MEETING
Meeting Time: Thurs, Sept 5, 8am PT / 10 am CT / 11am ET / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
New dial in number: 415-881-1586 No PIN needed
The weblink for screenshare will stay the same at:
Administrative Agenda Attendance Minutes Approval: https://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2019-08-01
GSoC Presentations
Technical Team Report – Kate/Gary
Legal Team Report – Jilayne/Paul
Outreach Team Report – Jack
Any Cross Functional Issues –All
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Re: SPDX Survey Results
Shane Coughlan <coughlan@...>
Exactly! :)
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On 4 Sep 2019, at 08:47, J Lovejoy <opensource@...> wrote: |
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Re: SPDX Survey Results
J Lovejoy
Very cool, Shane!
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When you say sharing, do you mean to share the results so far, but also a link to the survey to collect more results? (I think another push might get some more folks to fill it out, if we all spread the word.) Jilayne On Sep 3, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Shane Coughlan <coughlan@...> wrote: |
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Re: SPDX Survey Results
Gary O'Neall
Great information - very insightful.
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Thanks Shane! +1 on sharing on social media. Gary -----Original Message-----Coughlan Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 3:38 PMa link to the survey, I think we can get some more useful data. |
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SPDX Survey Results
Shane Coughlan <coughlan@...>
Hello all!
33 responses to our survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uhYUlCwQ59ZveqSsGC_0h1OxRLYRb1OZprfRHVNYfys/edit#responses Looking good. Shall we start sharing on social media? If we all take a show, and include a link to the survey, I think we can get some more useful data. Regards Shane -- Shane Coughlan General Manager, OpenChain e: coughlan@... p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083 w: www.openchainproject.org Schedule a call: https://calendly.com/shanecoughlan |
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Re: SPDX General Meeting
Hiro Fukuchi
Thank you, Phil-san.
--- Hiro Fukuchi (Hiroyuki.Fukuchi@...) Sony
From: Phil Odence <Phil.Odence@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:06 PM To: Fukuchi, Hiroyuki (Sony) <Hiroyuki.Fukuchi@...> Cc: openchain-japan-wg-licinf@...; spdx@... Subject: Re: [spdx] SPDX General Meeting
Fukuchi-san, This sounds like a great idea. I will contact you about this. Best regards, Phil
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"spdx@..." <spdx@...> on behalf of Hiro Fukuchi <hiroyuki.fukuchi@...>
Hi Phil-san and all,
My name is Hiro Fukuchi from Sony. I am a member of the OpenChain project Japan workgroup.
Can I join the next uberconference and explain about the background of the “SPDX Lite” which is being proposed by Japan workgroup. I am creating the slides for explanation.
--- Hiro Fukuchi (Hiroyuki.Fukuchi@...) Sony
-----Original Appointment-----
When: Occurs every month on the first Thursday of the month from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM effective 8/2/2018 until 1/1/2020. (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time
(US & Canada) I’m extending this recurring meeting to run through 2019. Please accept so it is updated on your calendar, however no need to send a response to me.
New dial in number: 415-881-1586 No PIN needed The weblink for screenshare will stay the same at:
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Re: SPDX General Meeting
Phil Odence
Fukuchi-san, This sounds like a great idea. I will contact you about this. Best regards, Phil
From: "spdx@..." <spdx@...> on behalf of Hiro Fukuchi <hiroyuki.fukuchi@...>
Hi Phil-san and all,
My name is Hiro Fukuchi from Sony. I am a member of the OpenChain project Japan workgroup.
Can I join the next uberconference and explain about the background of the “SPDX Lite” which is being proposed by Japan workgroup. I am creating the slides for explanation.
--- Hiro Fukuchi (Hiroyuki.Fukuchi@...) Sony
-----Original Appointment----- From: Phil Odence <podence@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:09 AM To: Phil Odence; spdx@... Subject: [spdx] SPDX General Meeting 2018 (replacement) When: 2019年9月5日木曜日 11:00-12:00 (UTC-05:00) 東部標準時 (米国およびカナダ) Where: Bridge info enclosed
When: Occurs every month on the first Thursday of the month from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM effective 8/2/2018 until 1/1/2020. (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada) I’m extending this recurring meeting to run through 2019. Please accept so it is updated on your calendar, however no need to send a response to me.
New dial in number: 415-881-1586 No PIN needed The weblink for screenshare will stay the same at:
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Re: SPDX General Meeting
Hiro Fukuchi
Hi Phil-san and all,
My name is Hiro Fukuchi from Sony.
I am a member of the OpenChain project Japan workgroup.
Can I join the next uberconference and explain about the background of the “SPDX Lite” which is being proposed by Japan workgroup.
I am creating the slides for explanation.
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Hiro Fukuchi (Hiroyuki.Fukuchi@...)
Sony
-----Original Appointment----- From: Phil Odence <podence@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:09 AM To: Phil Odence; spdx@... Subject: [spdx] SPDX General Meeting 2018 (replacement) When: 2019年9月5日木曜日 11:00-12:00 (UTC-05:00) 東部標準時 (米国およびカナダ) Where: Bridge info enclosed When: Occurs every month on the first Thursday of the month from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM effective 8/2/2018 until 1/1/2020. (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Where: Bridge info enclosed *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I’m extending this recurring meeting to run through 2019. Please accept so it is updated on your calendar, however no need to send a response to me.
New dial in number: 415-881-1586
No PIN needed
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Working with Python maintainers to adopt SPDX license expressions
Philippe Ombredanne
All:
I started working with the Python community to draft what we call a PEP (Python Enhancement Proposal) to adopt SPDX license expressions to document the license of Python packages. You can join the discussions here: https://discuss.python.org/t/improving-license-clarity-with-better-package-metadata/2154/57 And see, comment and propose updates to the draft PEP here: https://github.com/pombredanne/spdx-pypi-pep/pull/2 -- Cordially Philippe Ombredanne +1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne@... DejaCode - What's in your code?! - http://www.dejacode.com AboutCode - Open source for open source - https://www.aboutcode.org nexB Inc. - http://www.nexb.com |
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Re: SPDX 2019 Survey - Ready for your thoughts - Let's collect data
Phil Odence
Thanks, Shane, for your work on this and for sending out.
SPDXers, in addition to sharing your thoughts, please forward to anyone colleagues or acquaintances whom you think might have a useful perspective. Phil On 8/6/19, 5:32 PM, "spdx@... on behalf of Shane Coughlan" <spdx@... on behalf of coughlan@...> wrote: Dear all The SPDX 2019 Survey is now open and accepting contributions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_h958R6kkvFhxRJtz7&d=DwIFAg&c=DPL6_X_6JkXFx7AXWqB0tg&r=6RejxoO58WZ8e0SKjO9DwnbnAWbcLSaQRQp3CZDH85w&m=aQam-BJyZPypGLr32LS3C2O_wHyP41mqY3R_zeeLbnY&s=JDrekKfFj8YxDxZ7wpimHqc54vZdBsJx0pv-fwfrndc&e= Please help us with building out information regarding the status of the community and what we need to do next. The survey should only take 3~5 minutes. Regards Shane -- Shane Coughlan General Manager, OpenChain e: coughlan@... p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083 w: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.openchainproject.org&d=DwIFAg&c=DPL6_X_6JkXFx7AXWqB0tg&r=6RejxoO58WZ8e0SKjO9DwnbnAWbcLSaQRQp3CZDH85w&m=aQam-BJyZPypGLr32LS3C2O_wHyP41mqY3R_zeeLbnY&s=0cGyK8IYIAP0q3OyCL4PBmI7yramFccO59FpW0VMs8Q&e= Schedule a call: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_shanecoughlan&d=DwIFAg&c=DPL6_X_6JkXFx7AXWqB0tg&r=6RejxoO58WZ8e0SKjO9DwnbnAWbcLSaQRQp3CZDH85w&m=aQam-BJyZPypGLr32LS3C2O_wHyP41mqY3R_zeeLbnY&s=WCdJEEFPfF2XvjP-nhu-qi2_R2mQAVRW9gdR5EBGfbQ&e= |
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