Re: Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder [license list info]


J Lovejoy
 

Hi Oliver,

Indeed, Phil is right - all are welcome! 

In addition to the link Phil included below, there is also this page explaining when/how the license list inclusion guidelines came about: http://wiki.spdx.org/view/Legal_Team/Decisions/Inclusion_Guidelines_(Background)

We also started tracking the status of requests around the same time, which is on the wiki here: http://wiki.spdx.org/view/Legal_Team/Decisions/Inclusion_Guidelines_(Background)
Any discussion around a decision would be recorded in the relevant meeting minutes, but the best way to participate is of course to join the meetings, as meeting minutes often summarize any discussion.

Cheers,
Jilayne

SPDX Legal Team co-lead
opensource@...


On Jul 7, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Philip Odence <podence@...> wrote:

Oliver, 
There are a number of people on the Legal Team who are not lawyers. We would welcome your participation.
Best,
Phil

From: "Fendt, Oliver" <oliver.fendt@...>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:27:21 +0000
To: Phil Odence <podence@...>, Kate Stewart <kate.stewart@...>, "spdx@..." <spdx@...>
Subject: AW: AW: Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder

Hi Phil,
 
thanks that would really help.
If it is not a requirement to be a lawyer, then I will be happy to participate in the legal team, as well as in the technical team.
You are right the time is sometimes a problem but also I understand your restrictions.
 
Best regards
 
Oliver

Oliver Fendt

Siemens AG
Corporate Technology
CT BE OP SWI OSS
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81739 München, Deutschland
Tel: +49 89 636-46033
mailto:oliver.fendt@...
Von: Philip Odence [mailto:podence@...] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli 2014 13:13
An: Fendt, Oliver; Kate Stewart; spdx@...
Betreff: Re: AW: Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder
 
Thank you for the clarification Oliver. This kind of feedback it very helpful. 
We try out best to lay out the inclusion criteria here:
Also, it would be great if you, or someone from Siemens, would participate in our Legal Team meetings. In fact, we would welcome participation from Siemens on all of our teams. We try to schedule at times that are not too difficult for CET and if Europe participation increases, we are willing to look at moving the meeting, although we need to be mindful of having heavy west coast US participation as well.
Best regards,
Phil
 
L. Philip Odence
Vice President and General Manager
Black Duck
8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803
Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502
Skype: philip.odence
 
 
 
 
From: "Fendt, Oliver" <oliver.fendt@...>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 08:26:25 +0000
To: Kate Stewart <kate.stewart@...>, Phil Odence <podence@...>, "spdx@..." <spdx@...>
Subject: AW: Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder
 
Hi all,
sorry for not being able to participate yesterday in the conf call.
I want to comment on one topic of the last minutes. The topic is:
o             Mikael delivered a workshop at Siemens
They didn't understand license request process
Mikael encouraged them to participate in SPDX  “
 
I want to thank Mikael for the presentation. He did a very well job and gave us an interesting talk although he had a flue.
In the Q&A part of his talk, I raised the point that at least for me the criteria a license has to fulfill to be accepted for inclusion in the SPDX® license list is not really transparent to me.
In the past I submitted several licenses, some were accepted and some not. That’s totally ok but and the reasons for not accepting those were not transparent to me, like “this is not really an Open Source license” although already some creative commons license instances are in the SPDX license list which are not compliant to the open source definition as well. Another license was not accepted because it has no version number.
When I raised the point to  Mikael I wanted to express that the process for submission is quite clear and we understand it, because it is well described. But it is not described what criteria are checked by the team in charge in order to decide whether the license will be included or not. It would really help (at least me) if these criteria are described because this would help me to save effort and submit in future only those which will meet al criteria.
I hope that the topic of the minutes is bit more clear now
 
regards
Oliver

Siemens AG
Corporate Technology
CT BE OP SWI OSS
Otto-Hahn-Ring 6
81739 München, Deutschland
Tel: +49 89 636-46033
mailto:oliver.fendt@...
Von:spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] Im Auftrag von kate.stewart@...
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. 
Juli 2014 17:01
An: Philip Odence; spdx@...
Betreff: Re: Thursday SPDX General Meeting Reminder
 
Appologies,  have a work conflict today and not able to join in.
 
Technical team activities:
-  work continues on spec.   Have resolved out file types,  file usage portions.
-  decision made to not include the RDF vocabulary in the SPEC going forward,  Gary is was having issues regenerating it in form suitable for inclusion, and prefers to go with a different tool in future.   Spec will be the master and refer to a static version, that will be on web site. 

 

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 6:56 PM, Philip Odence <podence@...> wrote:

 

GENERAL MEETING
 
Meeting Time: Thurs, July 3, 8am PDT / 10 am CDT / 11am EDT / 15:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

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Administrative Agenda
Attendance
 
Technical Team Report - Kate
 
 
Legal Team Report - Jilayne
 
 
Business Team Report – Jack
 
 
Cross Functional Issues – Phil
 
 
L. Philip Odence
Vice President and General Manager
Black Duck
8 New England Executive Park, Suite 211, Burlington MA 01803
Phone: 781.810.1819, Mobile: 781.258.9502
Skype: philip.odence
 
 
 
 

General Meeting/Minutes/2014-06-05

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  • Attendance: 11
  • Lead by Phil Odence
  • Minutes of May meeting approved

Biz Team Report - Jack

  • Summer of Code- Lots of discussion on the Tech Team mailing list
  • Website- Jack and Matt are adding a page regarding University participation
  • LinuxCon- Working on getting a room
  • Website Statistics- Scott Lamons has volunteered to analyze on an ongoing basis and report to the Business Team
  • Vertical whitepapers in progress
  • Europe
    • Mikael delivered a workshop at Siemens
      • They didn't understand license request process
      • Mikael encouraged them to participate in SPDX
    • GENIVI- Mikael also promoted SPDX at the GENIVI All Members Meeting

Legal Team Report - Jilayne

  • Focus is on 2.0 deliverables
    • Fedora list
      • Worked through the list completely
      • Just a few remaining questions
    • New exceptions list is in process
    • In process of reviewing the website for how to present all the new developments

Tech Team Report - Gary

  • Very productive month
    • Kate heavily into spec drafting
    • Bug reports all combed through and assigned
    • All big issues addressed
  • Gary and Mark agreed that we are "on track" for delivery at LinuxCon
  • No clear due date for a draft from Kate

Cross Functional Issues – Phil

  • Working with Apache
    • Gary developed a Maven plugin to auto-generate an SPDX file
    • Getting some help from ASF members, but not a lot of pull
    • Now looking to attached to another group within Maven
 

Attendees

  • Phil Odence, Black Duck
  • Scott Sterling, Palamida
  • Jilanyne Lovejoy, ARM
  • Mark Gisi, Wind River
  • Matt Germonprez, UNO
  • Jack Manbeck, TI
  • Paul Madick, HP
  • Tom Incorvia, Microfocus
  • Gary O'Neall, Source Auditor
  • Mikael Söderberg, Pelagicore
  • Scott Lamons, HP 


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