Oh, so _you're_ the guys to blame for people calling the license "Eclipse"!
That explains everything.
(just kidding)
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-----Original Message----- From: spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) Sent: March-02-12 1:14 PM To: Jilayne Lovejoy; Tom Incorvia; Ed Warnicke (eaw); Richard Fontana Cc: spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; SPDX Subject: RE: Recommend Changing SPDX License Identifier for Eclipse PublicLicense 1.0 to "Eclipse-1.0"
FWIW, Fossology uses Eclipse_v1.0 but I think EPL works as well and folks would get use to it over time. My primary question/concern is the effect of changes like this on backward compatibility and general user confusion. On the other hand, if we are going to change it I suppose now is the time since there is probably not a lot of SPDX 1.0 implemented yet.
-Scott
-----Original Message----- From: spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jilayne Lovejoy Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:49 AM To: Tom Incorvia; Ed Warnicke (eaw); Richard Fontana Cc: spdx-tech@...; spdx-legal@...; SPDX Subject: Re: Recommend Changing SPDX License Identifier for Eclipse PublicLicense 1.0 to "Eclipse-1.0"
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On 2/29/12 8:44 PM, "Tom Incorvia" <tom.incorvia@...> wrote:
Thanks all, your replies are truly appreciated.
I withdraw the request to change the License identifier for the Eclipse Public License from EPL-1.0 to Eclipse-1.0.
Separately, we are looking for knowledgeable individuals like those who replied to participate more fully with SPDX. Please consider joining one of the SPDX working teams.
Thanks,
Tom
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-----Original Message----- From: Ed Warnicke (eaw) [mailto:eaw@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:08 PM To: Richard Fontana Cc: Tom Incorvia; spdx-legal@...; mike.milinkovich@...; SPDX; spdx-tech@... Subject: Re: Recommend Changing SPDX License Identifier for Eclipse PublicLicense 1.0 to "Eclipse-1.0"
I've only ever heard it referenced as the EPL.
On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:04 PM, "Richard Fontana" <rfontana@...> wrote:
FWIW, I don't think I've ever encountered "Eclipse" meaning "Eclipse Public License". Always EPL or the full expanded name.
- Richard
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 07:48:09PM -0600, Tom Incorvia wrote:
Thanks Mike,
The Eclipse Foundation certainly gets the big vote regarding how their license is referred to.
My experience is primarily commercial ISVs in the tools space, about a dozen, ranging in yearly revenue from $50M to $500M. In written correspondence over a period of several years, the phrase "Eclipse 1.0" is used more than 15x "EPL 1.0". The folks using the ²Eclipse 1.0² term have included many substantial contributors to the Eclipse project (for instance, Borland Software).
Let¹s let this cook for one more day.
If the feedback continues as it has, I¹ll simply withdraw the request. Like you, I am surprised at the disparity in usage of the abbreviated term I rarely see EPL, and assumed that this suggestion would pass through the SPDX group as more of an FYI.
Thanks again -- it is great to have community postings so the broadest view is represented.
Tom
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From: Mike Milinkovich [mailto:mike.milinkovich@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:16 PM To: Tom Incorvia; spdx-legal@...; spdx-tech@... Cc: 'SPDX' Subject: RE: Recommend Changing SPDX License Identifier for Eclipse Public License 1.0 to "Eclipse-1.0"
Tom,
FWIW, It is certainly news to me that people refer to the EPL as "Eclipse". I have universally heard it referred to as the EPL. I have literally never heard it referred to as Eclipse.
I don't have a strong feeling about this one way or another. I just find it surprising that my experience is so contrary to yours.
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From: spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Incorvia Sent: February-29-12 4:00 PM To: spdx-legal@...; spdx-tech@... Cc: SPDX Subject: Recommend Changing SPDX License Identifier for Eclipse Public License 1.0 to "Eclipse-1.0"
Hello SPDX license list interested parties,
I would like to propose that we change the License Identifier for the Eclipse Public License 1.0 on the SPDX License List from ³EPL-1.0² to ³Eclipse-1.0².
I suggest this because ³Eclipse² is how the license is commonly
referred to.
Secondarily, I have recently received 2 calls when documents referred to EPL-1.0, and the Identifier was simply not visually recognized by the user (yes, they could have clicked the link, but if Eclipse is the common usage, let¹s go with it unless there is a cost).
Any concerns?
Thanks,
Tom
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