Re: license name question

Philip Odence

First, let me be a pain in the neck and suggest we should move this
discussion to the spdx-legal list. We've committed to limiting this
general list to more summary information and less real work.

My opinion on the discussion below is that this is a license that it not
on the list, so needs to be treated as a custom license. It would be a
candidate for the list and could be nominated once the Biz team defines a
mechanism for new license inclusion.

On 5/25/11 2:47 PM, "Bob Gobeille" <bob.gobeille@...> wrote:

I brought this up because it is a new signature in FOSSology and I'd like
the name to be as close to the SPDX guidelines as possible. I really
like Daniel's method of identifying disjunctive licenses, but I don't see
that syntax in the SPDX guideline.

Would "GPL-2+-KDEupgradeClause" convey appropriate meaning? Or maybe I
should use Daniel's name until this is formalized or added to the license


On May 25, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jilayne Lovejoy wrote:

Daniel, et al.

By "KDEupgradeClause" you are referring to the previous posts re: KDE
reserving the right to decide on post-v3 versions of GPL as well, is

I suppose from the standpoint of our current SPDX license list short
and the
spec guidelines, Daniel has a good point and my previous suggestion
that it
would be "GPLv2+" (I know, that is not the exact correct short
but for expediency purposes...) is not exactly right, but more
accuratly, it
would be: a disjunctive set of GPLv2 or GPLv3


On 5/25/11 10:35 AM, "Daniel M. German" <dmg@...> wrote:

Hi Bob, Scott, Jilayne, Armijn,

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program
Office) <scott.lamons@...> wrote:
This is the way I read it as well. However I don't know why they
just license it under GPLv2 or GPLv3 and eliminate the "or (at your
any later version..." which seems completely unnecessary and forces
you into
effectively dealing with a non-standard license in SPDX.
We (as in Ninka) decided to consider this a (GPLv2 |
GPLv3-KDEupgradeClause). It can also be considered: (GPLv2 | GPLv3 |
GPLv3-KDEupgradeClause) from a practical point of view
that would simplify analysis. It is not a GPLv2+ or (GPLv2| GPLv3+)
since the upgrade path is different (in the former one the KDE
foundation decides the upgrade path, in the latter the FSF).


My 2 cents.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Jilayne Lovejoy
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:44 AM
To: Gobeille, Robert; spdx@...
Subject: Re: license name question

This would be GPL-2+ - as it's really just describing GPL v2 or
THere is no GPL v2.1 (that would be LGPL v2.1, I know, confusing!)

As for the KDE exception - the notice reads to me that KDE is
right to approve future versions of the GPL for use as the license
code, which seems different to me than an exception. I understand it
to be
saying - 'if there's a GPL v4, we want the chance to check that out
accept or not accecpt it instead of preemptively saying we'll accept
license before it has even been written.' Makes sense and seems

I guess I would think of this as different than an exception, since
an exception usually adds or modifies the terms of the original
which I suppose this does in a way, but in a different way than we
think of?


On 5/25/11 9:34 AM, "Bob Gobeille" <bob.gobeille@...> wrote:

I just ran into the following license. It is GPL v2 or GPL v3+ KDE
exception. Note the absence of GPLv2.1. If 2.1 was included, the
name would
be GPL-2+-with-KDE-exception, but since it isn't, what is the


Here is the code license notice:
* Copyright (c) 2007 Ian Monroe <ian@...>
* (c) 2010 Jeff Mitchell <mitchell@...>
* This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
modify it
under *
* the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
Software *
* Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option)
version 3
or *
* any later version accepted by the membership of KDE e.V. (or its
approved *
* by the membership of KDE e.V.), which shall act as a proxy
Section 14 of *
* version 3 of the license.
* This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
* WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or
* PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more
* You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
with *
* this program. If not, see <>.


Bob Gobeille
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