First, let me be a pain in the neck and suggest we should move this discussion to the spdx-legal list. We've committed to limiting this general list to more summary information and less real work.
My opinion on the discussion below is that this is a license that it not on the list, so needs to be treated as a custom license. It would be a candidate for the list and could be nominated once the Biz team defines a mechanism for new license inclusion.
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On 5/25/11 2:47 PM, "Bob Gobeille" <bob.gobeille@...> wrote: I brought this up because it is a new signature in FOSSology and I'd like the name to be as close to the SPDX guidelines as possible. I really like Daniel's method of identifying disjunctive licenses, but I don't see that syntax in the SPDX guideline.
Would "GPL-2+-KDEupgradeClause" convey appropriate meaning? Or maybe I should use Daniel's name until this is formalized or added to the license list?
Bob
On May 25, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jilayne Lovejoy wrote:
Daniel, et al.
By "KDEupgradeClause" you are referring to the previous posts re: KDE reserving the right to decide on post-v3 versions of GPL as well, is that right?
I suppose from the standpoint of our current SPDX license list short and the spec guidelines, Daniel has a good point and my previous suggestion that it would be "GPLv2+" (I know, that is not the exact correct short identifier, but for expediency purposes...) is not exactly right, but more accuratly, it would be: a disjunctive set of GPLv2 or GPLv3
Jilayne
On 5/25/11 10:35 AM, "Daniel M. German" <dmg@...> wrote:
Hi Bob, Scott, Jilayne, Armijn,
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) <scott.lamons@...> wrote:
This is the way I read it as well. However I don't know why they wouldn't just license it under GPLv2 or GPLv3 and eliminate the "or (at your option) any later version..." which seems completely unnecessary and forces you into effectively dealing with a non-standard license in SPDX.
We (as in Ninka) decided to consider this a (GPLv2 | GPLv3-KDEupgradeClause). It can also be considered: (GPLv2 | GPLv3 | GPLv3-KDEupgradeClause) from a practical point of view that would simplify analysis. It is not a GPLv2+ or (GPLv2| GPLv3+) since the upgrade path is different (in the former one the KDE foundation decides the upgrade path, in the latter the FSF).
--dmg
My 2 cents.
-Scott
-----Original Message----- From: spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jilayne Lovejoy Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:44 AM To: Gobeille, Robert; spdx@... Subject: Re: license name question
This would be GPL-2+ - as it's really just describing GPL v2 or later. THere is no GPL v2.1 (that would be LGPL v2.1, I know, confusing!)
As for the KDE exception - the notice reads to me that KDE is reserving the right to approve future versions of the GPL for use as the license for this code, which seems different to me than an exception. I understand it to be saying - 'if there's a GPL v4, we want the chance to check that out and accept or not accecpt it instead of preemptively saying we'll accept a license before it has even been written.' Makes sense and seems reasonable, actually.
I guess I would think of this as different than an exception, since usually an exception usually adds or modifies the terms of the original license, which I suppose this does in a way, but in a different way than we usually think of?
Jilayne
On 5/25/11 9:34 AM, "Bob Gobeille" <bob.gobeille@...> wrote:
I just ran into the following license. It is GPL v2 or GPL v3+ KDE exception. Note the absence of GPLv2.1. If 2.1 was included, the name would
be GPL-2+-with-KDE-exception, but since it isn't, what is the protocol?
GPL-2or3-with-KDE-exception ???
Here is the code license notice:
/********************************************************************* * *******
*********** * Copyright (c) 2007 Ian Monroe <ian@...> * * (c) 2010 Jeff Mitchell <mitchell@...> * * * * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
under * * the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
Software * * Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) version 3
or * * any later version accepted by the membership of KDE e.V. (or its successor
approved * * by the membership of KDE e.V.), which shall act as a proxy defined in
Section 14 of * * version 3 of the license. * * * * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT
ANY * * WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS
FOR A * * PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details.
* * * * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along
with * * this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. *
********************************************************************** * *******
**********/
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