Re: new version of License List uploaded

Tom Incorvia

-          Regarding the MIT license.  This is a VERY well-established license, #4 on the Black Duck site, is listed in expected form the OSI site, etc.  I have not seen variants other than the copyright year and copyright holders template holders.  I strongly recommend that we maintain the MIT license without associating it with Expat.   No opinion on whether to list Expat or not – I have not used it, but am in the commercial world


-          Regarding Perl – since there is not a Perl license or Perl license stack (like Python), I suggest that we not list Perl as a license.


-          I am not familiar with the general use of the OpenSSL exception, but it is certainly distinct from any exceptions that we currently have listed.  Here is a reference from Debian Legal on this exception.  Does anyone have experience with this exception and know if the text is consistent?


-          Anyone else familiar with GPL Font – not me? 


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From: Jilayne Lovejoy [mailto:Jlovejoy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:34 PM
To: Tom Incorvia; Kim Weins; SPDX
Subject: RE: new version of License List uploaded


Thanks, Tom.  Do you (or anyone on the list) have any thoughts on the 3 items highlighted in yellow below?


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From: Tom Incorvia [mailto:tom.incorvia@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:04 AM
To: Kim Weins; Jilayne Lovejoy; SPDX
Subject: RE: new version of License List uploaded


Hi Jilayne,


On the legal call today I offered to do a last look at the Debian / SPDX license name differences.


I agree with Kim:


The exclusion of “.0” in cases where the license issuer does not use that makes sense


The Debian abbreviation of the GNU Free Documentation License is a far more common use that the FDL that we chose, so let’s use GFDL.




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From: spdx-bounces@... [mailto:spdx-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kim Weins
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 10:44 AM
To: Jilayne Lovejoy; SPDX
Subject: Re: new version of License List uploaded


Thanks Jilayne

After looking this over, we are pretty well aligned with two exceptions

  1. Debian excludes the “.0” on ends of versions (eg Apache-1 instead of Apache-1.0)
  2. Debian uses GFDL for GNU Free Documentation License and we use FDL.

I would be fine with changing out names to match Debian on both the items above.  That makes it easy and saves us from trying to negotiate changes.


On Fri 1/14/11 2:00 PM, "Jilayne Lovejoy" <Jlovejoy@...> wrote:

I just uploaded v1.5 of the License List spreadsheet and accompanying guidelines/notes document to the SPDX website here:
This version reflects adds a column for comparison to the Debian short name protocols and list ( and some comments where there were differences in license long names.  Notes/observations/questions re: these additions below (this is also listed on the Word doc associated with the license):

  • Column added for comparison to Debian license list short names:
    • If left blank, then license not on Debian list
    • If short name is the same, then “same” entered in this column
    • If short name is different, then Debian variation entered here
      • Debian uses Expat license instead of MIT; Expat is not on SPDX list ??
      • Debian identifies GPL font and SSL exception which were not on SPDX list; font exception was added to SPDX list
        • Should we add the SSL exception? It looks like a suggestion more than a standard exception based on the info contained in a link.  I’ve never seen this one before – anyone have any thoughts on this?
      • SPDX list had exceptions not on Debian list, but short names using Debian short names rules listed in this column
      • Debian lists Perl as a license, but this is really a disjunctive licensing situation with either GPL or Artistic; it doesn’t seem like “Perl” should be listed as a separate license in this case as there are other scenarios like this
      • Added other GFDL v1.1 and v1.3 to license list, as they were missing
        • Debian lists GNU Free Documentation License with no invariant sections à did not add this… ??

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