New License List website features
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Gary O'Neall
Greetings legal team,
I’m working on updating software which generates the website and license list data to include the status of the “Other web pages” links for the licenses. I have a couple of questions for those interested in the license website look and feel.
My plan is if the URL is no longer live, we will remove the hyperlink and only display the text. I will also append “[No longer live, last checked date]” after the URL text string. Below is an example:
Let me know if this formatting is OK. I don’t think I’ll have time for fancy HTML formatting, but I can easily change the text. Of course, if someone with good HTML skills would like to contribute – the template for this file can be found at https://github.com/spdx/LicenseListPublisher/blob/master/resources/htmlTemplate/LicenseHTMLTemplate.html
There are several other fields about the URL which is available in the JSON (and other) license data formats. I do not have any plans to display these values on the website for this release.
I’m planning on treating redirected web pages as live pages (turns out there is a very large number of permanent redirects in the URLs). Let me know if you disagree with this approach.
Thanks,
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Die 13. 11. 20 et hora 07:15 Gary O'Neall scripsit:
My plan is if the URL is no longer live, we will remove the hyperlink andWould it make sense to equip it with an Internet Archive link then? cheers, Matija -- gsm: tel:+386.41.849.552 www: https://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suklje@... sip: matija_suklje@... |
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Steve Winslow
Gary, thanks for this! I think this will be helpful as we periodically get issues submitted asking about dead links -- will be helpful to have it more visible on the license list page. Hi Matija, I think that if there is a desire for an Internet Archive link, that's probably most easily handled by a PR to the particular license XML file in https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML to add to (not replace) the cross-references. I don't expect that the publisher tool will automatically add them in, or that the license list maintainers will hunt for replacement links across all licenses -- but if the community submits PRs to supplement with links for particular licenses, I think those would be merged. Best, Steve On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 2:12 AM Matija Šuklje <matija@...> wrote: Die 13. 11. 20 et hora 07:15 Gary O'Neall scripsit: |
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Die 13. 11. 20 et hora 15:48 Steve Winslow scripsit:
Hi Matija, I think that if there is a desire for an Internet Archive link,Having it as an additional link makes sense to me. I don't expect that the publisher tool willI mentioned it because as soon as you have original URL and a timestamp, you can simply generate an Internet Archive URL as such: http://web.archive.org/web/{$timestamp}/{$original_url} Using Gary’s example, all you need to do is to translate: * https://notvalidopensource.org/licenses/EUPL-1.1 [no longer live - last checked 2020-11-13 - 05:57:04] to http://web.archive.org/web/20201113055704/https://notvalidopensource.org/ licenses/EUPL-1.1 And the cool thing is that if the Internet Archive does not have that exact timestamp, it will just link to the first snapshot earlier than that. cheers, Matija -- gsm: tel:+386.41.849.552 www: https://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suklje@... sip: matija_suklje@... |
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Am 13.11.20 um 16:01 schrieb Matija Šuklje:
Die 13. 11. 20 et hora 15:48 Steve Winslow scripsit:Not sure if it helps but we have many links for licenses to the InternetHi Matija, I think that if there is a desire for an Internet Archive link,Having it as an additional link makes sense to me. Archive which is very interesting vor license archaeologists: https://github.com/LeChasseur/ifrOSS/blob/master/Lizenzcenter.md |
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Alexios Zavras
"last checked" may or may not mean "last time checked AND found" 😉
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From: Spdx-legal@... <Spdx-legal@...> On Behalf Of Matija Šuklje Sent: Friday, 13 November, 2020 16:02 To: spdx-legal@... Subject: Re: New License List website features Die 13. 11. 20 et hora 15:48 Steve Winslow scripsit: Hi Matija, I think that if there is a desire for an Internet ArchiveHaving it as an additional link makes sense to me. I don't expect that the publisher tool will automatically add them in,I mentioned it because as soon as you have original URL and a timestamp, you can simply generate an Internet Archive URL as such: http://web.archive.org/web/{$timestamp}/{$original_url} Using Gary’s example, all you need to do is to translate: * https://notvalidopensource.org/licenses/EUPL-1.1 [no longer live - last checked 2020-11-13 - 05:57:04] to http://web.archive.org/web/20201113055704/https://notvalidopensource.org/ licenses/EUPL-1.1 And the cool thing is that if the Internet Archive does not have that exact timestamp, it will just link to the first snapshot earlier than that. cheers, Matija -- gsm: tel:+386.41.849.552 www: https://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suklje@... sip: matija_suklje@... Intel Deutschland GmbH Registered Address: Am Campeon 10-12, 85579 Neubiberg, Germany Tel: +49 89 99 8853-0, www.intel.de Managing Directors: Christin Eisenschmid, Gary Kershaw Chairperson of the Supervisory Board: Nicole Lau Registered Office: Munich Commercial Register: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 186928 |
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Die 14. 11. 20 et hora 00:35 Gary O'Neall scripsit:
Alexios is correct - the last checked is just the last time the tool wasMakes sense to me. Another option could be to simply store the timestamp of when the license was suggested/added instead. That one we can be at least fairly sure a human checked as well. cheers, Matija -- gsm: tel:+386.41.849.552 www: https://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suklje@... sip: matija_suklje@... |
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Alexios Zavras
Ehmmm... someone suggests today (and gets accepted next month) a license of a software written in the '90s, and the license text points to a website that has not existed for years.
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No current timestamp would be useful. (this is actually a pretty common case) -- zvr -----Original Message-----
From: Spdx-legal@... <Spdx-legal@...> On Behalf Of Matija Šuklje Sent: Saturday, 14 November, 2020 09:40 To: spdx-legal@... Subject: Re: New License List website features Die 14. 11. 20 et hora 00:35 Gary O'Neall scripsit: Alexios is correct - the last checked is just the last time the toolMakes sense to me. Another option could be to simply store the timestamp of when the license was suggested/added instead. That one we can be at least fairly sure a human checked as well. cheers, Matija -- gsm: tel:+386.41.849.552 www: https://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suklje@... sip: matija_suklje@... Intel Deutschland GmbH Registered Address: Am Campeon 10-12, 85579 Neubiberg, Germany Tel: +49 89 99 8853-0, www.intel.de Managing Directors: Christin Eisenschmid, Gary Kershaw Chairperson of the Supervisory Board: Nicole Lau Registered Office: Munich Commercial Register: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 186928 |
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Patrice-Emmanuel SCHMITZ
Greetings, The "official" EUPL pages on the European Commission site JOINUP present the text of the current EUPL-1.2 but the EUPL-1.1 may still be used. No automatic switch to 1.2 if no "or later" mention was added. The 1.1 text is still published in appendix to the 1.2 page. P-E Le ven. 13 nov. 2020 à 07:16, Gary O'Neall <gary@...> a écrit :
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