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An example of a super simple SPDX licenses registry, for discussion
Philippe Ombredanne
See https://github.com/nexB/spdx-license-namespaces-registry/
and https://github.com/nexB/spdx-license-namespaces-registry/pull/1 -- Cordially Philippe Ombredanne +1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne@... DejaCode - What's in your code?! - http://www.dejacode.com AboutCode - Open source for open source - https://www.aboutcode.org nexB Inc. - http://www.nexb.com
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J Lovejoy
Hi Philippe,
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I’m a bit lost on what the goal of this is. Can you provide a bit more context. I looked at a couple entries and noticed, for example, this one: https://github.com/nexB/spdx-license-namespaces-registry/blob/master/scancode/licenseref-scancode-bsd-innosys.spdx which then points to this: https://github.com/nexB/scancode-toolkit/blob/develop/src/licensedcode/data/licenses/bsd-innosys.yml which notes that this is common in the Linux kernel. Weren’t we going to add to the SPDX License List some of the other common licenses you all were finding in the kernel? Thanks, Jilayne
On Mar 7, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@...> wrote:
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Philippe Ombredanne
Hi Jilayne:
On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 6:40 PM J Lovejoy <opensource@...> wrote: Hi Philippe,I sent it quickly during the legal team call on Thursday and sorry for not providing much background then. Here it is: There has been a recent discussion initiated by Mark Atwood to create stable, yet private SDPX identifiers. And there is a similar need for ScanCode licenses too (See https://github.com/nexB/scancode-toolkit/issues/532 and has been requested by several users too. Through the discussions, Kate and Gary suggested that we could reuse LicenseRef and create an SPDX document for each license. The example repository and example pull request that I linked above are to provide an example of what this would look like if we were to have such a system where there could be two level of registrations: simple namespace and namespace + licenses ... all using LicenseRef The benefit is that there would be no change to the spec required at all and could be used today. Now, the actual content of the repo I linked is based on a completely random subset of non-SPDX-listed licenses that exists in ScanCode, so their actual content is not relevant here. I reckon that I still owe you to submit all the licenses that we found in the kernel that are not yet in SPDX.... I am terribly late on that part. The two are not directly related... yet I could see the submission of namespaced licenses as being a funnel for actual additions to the SPDX list proper. Some may be worthy of that addition while some may not make the cut. -- Cordially Philippe Ombredanne
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Kyle Mitchell
The word "registry" always gives me flashbacks. Shared
namespaces offer a unique kind of value, but always come with carrying costs, scaling stepwise with popularity. For example, the statutory process of copyright-based takedown requests, the DMCA, doesn't cover trademark-based claims. There is no special safe harbor from trademark infringement for service providers, just generally applicable rules of secondary liability. How will you handle name disputes? How will you deal with complaints (to SPDX/LF) about the identifiers being used by private parties under their assigned namespaces? Prior art: https://www.npmjs.com/policies/disputes The npm public registry was originally one, flat namespace for packages. `jquery` is a package name. In time, the registry expanded to support scoped packages, with a separate namespace for scopes, and another for each scope, for packages within it. `@blueoak/list` is a scoped package name. Some scopes exist on the public registry, and some exist only in private registries. -- Kyle Mitchell, attorney // Oakland // (510) 712 - 0933
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Philippe Ombredanne
Kyle:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:54 PM Kyle Mitchell <kyle@...> wrote: How will you handle name disputes? How will you deal withThankyou: that's all valuable things to consider indeed and hard earned from the leftpad issues. Though I doubt mere licenses will ever be as successful as npm! -- Cordially Philippe Ombredanne
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J Lovejoy
just a quick note on this: the leftpad issue had some very specific and extenuating circumstances that led to the mess it created which are really not applicable here. So while the legal team will consider our scenario, leftpad is not instructive.
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On Mar 13, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@...> wrote:
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