3.8 License List release
Steve Winslow
Hello all, Along with the usual assortment of documentation updates and markup tweaks, 9 new licenses and exceptions were added to the list: * GPL-3.0-linking-exception * GPL-3.0-linking-source-exception * libselinux-1.0 * NTP-0 * OFL-1.0-RFN * OFL-1.0-no-RFN * OFL-1.1-RFN * OFL-1.1-no-RFN * PSF-2.0 Best regards, Steve -- Steve Winslow Director of Strategic Programs The Linux Foundation
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Meeting today, Jan. 30
Steve Winslow
The next SPDX legal team meeting will be today, Thursday, Jan. 30 at 9AM PT / noon ET. We'll focus on finalizing items to be included in the upcoming 3.8 release. Best, Steve = = = = = Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/611416785 Meeting ID: 611 416 785 One tap mobile +16465588656,,611416785# US (New York) +16699006833,,611416785# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 877 369 0926 US Toll-free 855 880 1246 US Toll-free +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 611 416 785 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aceZFvRyln -- Steve Winslow Director of Strategic Programs The Linux Foundation
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Re: New License/Exception Request: selinux-nsa-declaration
Steve Winslow
Thanks Mark, I've created an issue to track this new request at: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/issues/966 Steve
1. Provide a proposed Full Name for the license or exception.
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New License/Exception Request: selinux-nsa-declaration
1. Provide a proposed Full Name for the license or exception.
selinux-nsa-declaration-1.0 2. Provide a proposed Short Identifier. selinux-nsa-declaration-1.0 3. https://github.com/SELinuxProject/selinux/blob/master/libselinux/LICENSE 4. License text is attached. 5. Not OSI approved 6. Used by SELinux.
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Re: Meeting today, Jan. 16
pmadick
Hi Steve, I got called out of town for a family emergency and won't be able to make it today. Things are going ok. Sorry, Paul Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve Winslow <swinslow@...> Date: 1/16/20 6:00 AM (GMT-08:00) To: SPDX-legal <spdx-legal@...> Subject: Meeting today, Jan. 16 The next SPDX legal team meeting will be today, Thursday, Jan. 16 at 9AM PT / noon ET. Today we'll focus on following up on status for the pending 3.8 issues that were selected during the last call on Jan. 2. Best, Steve = = = = = Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/611416785 Meeting ID: 611 416 785 One tap mobile +16465588656,,611416785# US (New York) +16699006833,,611416785# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 877 369 0926 US Toll-free 855 880 1246 US Toll-free +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 611 416 785 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aceZFvRyln -- Steve Winslow Director of Strategic Programs The Linux Foundation
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Meeting today, Jan. 16
Steve Winslow
The next SPDX legal team meeting will be today, Thursday, Jan. 16 at 9AM PT / noon ET. Today we'll focus on following up on status for the pending 3.8 issues that were selected during the last call on Jan. 2. Best, Steve = = = = = Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/611416785 Meeting ID: 611 416 785 One tap mobile +16465588656,,611416785# US (New York) +16699006833,,611416785# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 877 369 0926 US Toll-free 855 880 1246 US Toll-free +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 611 416 785 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aceZFvRyln -- Steve Winslow Director of Strategic Programs The Linux Foundation
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[ANNOUNCE] Open source license compliance tooling meeting and hackathon on January 31st 2020 pre-FOSDEM fringe event in Bruxelles, Belgium
Philippe Ombredanne
If you care about open source compliance automation and if you are
going to FOSDEM there is a one day hackathon and meeting taking place the day before FOSDEM on Friday January 31st as "fringe" event, in Bruxelles, Belgium. The topic is open source compliance tooling and automation... the format is an unconference. I expect several open source projects in that space to be represented there including ORT, Fossology, ClearlyDefined, SPDX tools, Scancode and many more. I am co-organizing this with Michael Jaeger from Fossology. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UphruKKAlsoUEidPCwTF2LCcHFnQkvQCQ9luTXfDupw/edit#heading=h.p2d7mni4lrcu for details. To "register", just add you name to this document! (alternatively you can reply to me off list too) I look forward to seeing you there! -- Cordially Philippe Ombredanne +1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne@... DejaCode - What's in your code?! - http://www.dejacode.com AboutCode - Open source for open source - https://www.aboutcode.org nexB Inc. - http://www.nexb.com
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Meeting today, Jan. 2
Steve Winslow
Happy new year, all! The next SPDX legal team meeting will be today, Thursday, Jan. 2 at 9AM PT / noon ET. Since the 3.8 release was delayed due to the holidays and canceled team meetings, today's agenda will focus on triaging issues for what's reasonable to complete for 3.8, and assigning owners who can help shepherd them through to completion. **Please note** that beginning today, we are switching to using Zoom (as the tech team has previously done). Invite details are below and also in the 2020 calendar invite previously circulated. A dial-in phone number is also available. Best, Steve = = = = = Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/611416785 Meeting ID: 611 416 785 One tap mobile +16465588656,,611416785# US (New York) +16699006833,,611416785# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 877 369 0926 US Toll-free 855 880 1246 US Toll-free +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 611 416 785 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aceZFvRyln
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Invitation: SPDX legal team meeting @ Every 2 weeks from 12pm to 1pm on Thursday from Thu Jan 2, 2020 to Thu Dec 31, 2020 (EST) (spdx-legal@lists.spdx.org)
Steve Winslow
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Happy Holidays (and let's reconvene in the New Year)
J Lovejoy
Hi all,
Due to the end of the year craziness many of us are experiencing and resulting low-turnout at recent meetings and on the mailing list, we are going to call it for the year and reconvene (with vigor!) in 2020. This means the 3.8 release will be postponed. If you do have some cycles over the next couple weeks, please get caught up and dive in on the issues in the license list repo - it takes a village to get a release done. :D Steve will send a new recurring invite for 2020. In the meantime, enjoy your holidays! Cheers, Jilayne
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Re: SPDX-License-Identifier for composite-licensed source files
Hi Richard,
I think both your possibilities work, and with the current state of art, I would agree with Kate, Jilayne and Gary. On the other hand it seems to me that exactly how to mark source code is perhaps a bit out of the scope of SPDX (I might be wrong though). A project that is based on SPDX that is aimed directly at properly marking up source code is <https://reuse.software>. For 4.0 (i.e. next major release) spec, one of the bigger tasks is to properly handle snippets. There is already a ticket open, and I’d love to hear your (and everyone else’s on this list, of course) feedback: <https://github.com/fsfe/reuse-docs/issues/34> cheers, Matija Šuklje -- gsm: +386 41 849 552 www: http://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suklje@... sip: matija_suklje@...
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Re: SPDX-License-Identifier for composite-licensed source files
Gary O'Neall
+1 on Kate’s recommendation. This format will be properly parsed by the SPDX Tools parsers (the 3 parsers I am aware of) and I believe represents the intent behind the AND operator.
Gary
From: Spdx-legal@... <Spdx-legal@...> On Behalf Of Kate Stewart
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 8:49 AM To: Richard Fontana <rfontana@...> Cc: SPDX-legal <spdx-legal@...> Subject: Re: SPDX-License-Identifier for composite-licensed source files
Hi Richard, I suspect the others will comment as well, but I would hope to see "SPDX-License-Identifier: MPL-2.0 AND Apache-2.0" as a summary.
The second approach may become ambiguous to scanners as they may try to treat it as an "OR", and I believe that "AND" is truer to the intention here.
Kate
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:30 AM Richard Fontana <rfontana@...> wrote:
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Re: SPDX-License-Identifier for composite-licensed source files
J Lovejoy
Jilayne
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Re: SPDX-License-Identifier for composite-licensed source files
Kate Stewart
Hi Richard, I suspect the others will comment as well, but I would hope to see "SPDX-License-Identifier: MPL-2.0 AND Apache-2.0" as a summary. The second approach may become ambiguous to scanners as they may try to treat it as an "OR", and I believe that "AND" is truer to the intention here. Kate
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:30 AM Richard Fontana <rfontana@...> wrote: Suppose you're dealing with the following source file legal notice
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SPDX-License-Identifier for composite-licensed source files
Richard Fontana
Suppose you're dealing with the following source file legal notice
(example taken from https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/MPL/2.0/permissive-code-into-mpl/, itself adapted from the examples discussed by SFLC in this old paper: https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2007/gpl-non-gpl-collaboration.html): /* This Source Code Form is subject to the terms of the Mozilla Public * License, v. 2.0. If a copy of the MPL was not distributed with this * file, You can obtain one at http://mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/. * * This file incorporates work covered by the following copyright and * permission notice: * * Copyright 2013 Joe Bloggs * * Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); * you may not use this file except in compliance with the License. * You may obtain a copy of the License at * * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 * * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software * distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS, * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and * limitations under the License. */ Is there a recommended approach to translating this to use SPDX-Liense-Identifier strings? One possibility might be: /* Copyright 2013 Joe Bloggs * SPDX-License-Identifier: MPL-2.0 AND Apache-2.0 */ This approach represents all the copyright and license information in the original file without making the legal judgment that is implicit in the original notice (as to the legal effect of one-way compatibility of the Apache License 2.0 with MPL 2.0), beyond possibly what someone might choose to infer from the mere ordering of the conjunctive set of licenses. But it gives the possibly-false impression that Joe Bloggs is the sole or, in some sense, primary copyright owner of the code in the file, which results in part from the absence of a copyright notice for the MPL licensor(s). Another possibility might be: /* SPDX-License-Identifier: MPL-2.0 * This file incorporates work covered by the following copyright notice and license: * Copyright 2013 Joe Bloggs * SPDX-License-Identifier: Apache-2.0 */ This is closer to the original, and provides the same opinion on the licensing consequence of the "incorporation" of the Apache License 2.0 code, but whether that is good or bad I'm not sure. (As I understand it there's a theme in SPDX of attempting to avoid making legal judgments.) But it has a verbosity that I would think goes against the whole spirit of using the SPDX-License-Identifier construct. What's the best practice for source files of this sort, containing code under multiple licenses where there is some notion of code under the more permissive license being subsumed under the more restrictive license of incorporation? Richard
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meeting tomorrow POSTPONED to next week, Dec 19th / release update
J Lovejoy
Hi all,
Due to some unforeseen circumstances, both Steve and I are not available tomorrow. Given this would be our last meeting for 2019 (unless people wanted to meet on Dec 26th?), I'd like to postpone to next week, Dec 19th. Please adjust your calendars accordingly. Also, we have not had enough help to get through many of the issues in the queue for the next release, which would normally occur at the end of the month. If you use the SPDX License List in anyway, if you are reading this message, PLEASE check the issues in the Github repo and provide any help you can. Thanks, Jilayne SPDX legal team co-lead
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Re: Request for adding Eclipse Distribution License - v 1.0
Alexios Zavras
We should have a “note” on the BSD-3-Clause license.
-- zvr
From: Spdx-legal@... <Spdx-legal@...>
On Behalf Of CARLIER Aurelien
Hello,
Thank you Wayne and Philippe for giving an answer that quickly J. I agree with the statement.
Maybe it (former suggestion by Wayne) would be mentioned in the "license and exceptions tracking page" not to be requested again (I've checked before sending the email, trying to make things the right way).
Regards, Aurélien
[@@ THALES GROUP INTERNAL @@]
De : Wayne Beaton [mailto:wayne.beaton@...]
We've discussed this previously (at my suggestion on behalf of the Eclipse Foundation).
My recollection is that it was decided that SPDX would not add EDL-1.0 or any other licenses based on the BSD-3-Clause template because doing so would set a precedent drawing in literally hundreds of other licenses based on that template.
For Eclipse projects that use EDL-1.0, we just use BSD-3-Clause as the SPDX code.
Wayne
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:36 PM CARLIER Aurelien <aurelien.carlier@...> wrote:
-- Wayne Beaton Director of Open Source Projects | Eclipse Foundation, Inc. Intel Deutschland GmbH
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Re: Request for adding Eclipse Distribution License - v 1.0
CARLIER Aurelien
Hello,
Thank you Wayne and Philippe for giving an answer that quickly J. I agree with the statement.
Maybe it (former suggestion by Wayne) would be mentioned in the "license and exceptions tracking page" not to be requested again (I've checked before sending the email, trying to make things the right way).
Regards, Aurélien
[@@ THALES GROUP INTERNAL @@]
De : Wayne Beaton [mailto:wayne.beaton@...]
We've discussed this previously (at my suggestion on behalf of the Eclipse Foundation).
My recollection is that it was decided that SPDX would not add EDL-1.0 or any other licenses based on the BSD-3-Clause template because doing so would set a precedent drawing in literally hundreds of other licenses based on that template.
For Eclipse projects that use EDL-1.0, we just use BSD-3-Clause as the SPDX code.
Wayne
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:36 PM CARLIER Aurelien <aurelien.carlier@...> wrote:
-- Wayne Beaton Director of Open Source Projects | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
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Re: Request for adding Eclipse Distribution License - v 1.0
Philippe Ombredanne
Hi Aurelien:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:36 PM CARLIER Aurelien <aurelien.carlier@...> wrote: I would like to request addition of the Eclipse Distribution License in the SPDX license list.As far as I can remember, since this is the same as the BSD-3-Clause license text (using the matching guidelines), it was never added as its own license id. -- Cordially Philippe Ombredanne +1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne@... DejaCode - What's in your code?! - http://www.dejacode.com AboutCode - Open source for open source - https://www.aboutcode.org nexB Inc. - http://www.nexb.com
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Re: Request for adding Eclipse Distribution License - v 1.0
Wayne Beaton
We've discussed this previously (at my suggestion on behalf of the Eclipse Foundation). My recollection is that it was decided that SPDX would not add EDL-1.0 or any other licenses based on the BSD-3-Clause template because doing so would set a precedent drawing in literally hundreds of other licenses based on that template. For Eclipse projects that use EDL-1.0, we just use BSD-3-Clause as the SPDX code. Wayne
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:36 PM CARLIER Aurelien <aurelien.carlier@...> wrote:
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Wayne Beaton Director of Open Source Projects | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
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