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this likely calls for a new L/GPL "exception"?
See today's announcement: "Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT), Facebook, Inc.
(NASDAQ: FB), Google (NASDAQ: GOOGL) and IBM (NYSE: IBM) today
announced efforts to promote additional predictability in open
See today's announcement: "Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT), Facebook, Inc.
(NASDAQ: FB), Google (NASDAQ: GOOGL) and IBM (NYSE: IBM) today
announced efforts to promote additional predictability in open
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Philippe Ombredanne
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#2083
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Re: update on only/or later etc.
Sorry for the long email, but I was asked for evidence... so I went and got some.
David A. Wheeler:
Philippe Ombredanne [mailto:pombredanne@...]
The issue of having to *check* for Apache-2.0 &
Sorry for the long email, but I was asked for evidence... so I went and got some.
David A. Wheeler:
Philippe Ombredanne [mailto:pombredanne@...]
The issue of having to *check* for Apache-2.0 &
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By
David A. Wheeler
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#2082
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Re: update on only/or later etc.
David,
I understand your point, but __how many times__ did you ever encounter
this case in the real world?
On my side, I have analyzed 1000+ significant software products,
10,000+ packages and
David,
I understand your point, but __how many times__ did you ever encounter
this case in the real world?
On my side, I have analyzed 1000+ significant software products,
10,000+ packages and
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Philippe Ombredanne
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#2081
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Re: Keep partial conclusions out of license expressions (was: update on only/or later etc.)
Trevor,
You are making an excellent argument against adding this to the syntax.
And I am with you there that it is OK to have it too, but unlikely needed.
--
Cordially
Philippe Ombredanne
+1 650
Trevor,
You are making an excellent argument against adding this to the syntax.
And I am with you there that it is OK to have it too, but unlikely needed.
--
Cordially
Philippe Ombredanne
+1 650
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By
Philippe Ombredanne
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#2080
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Re: Keep partial conclusions out of license expressions (was: update on only/or later etc.)
If most everyone were to agree to add this, I am reluctantly OK.
Technically the implementation is easy-peasy so that's not the issue.
I still think these rare cases and exceptions are not
If most everyone were to agree to add this, I am reluctantly OK.
Technically the implementation is easy-peasy so that's not the issue.
I still think these rare cases and exceptions are not
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By
Philippe Ombredanne
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#2079
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Re: Keep partial conclusions out of license expressions (was: update on only/or later etc.)
gary@... [mailto:gary@...]
Yes, it does.
--- David A. Wheeler
gary@... [mailto:gary@...]
Yes, it does.
--- David A. Wheeler
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By
David A. Wheeler
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#2078
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Re: Keep partial conclusions out of license expressions (was: update on only/or later etc.)
I do have a use case where being able to represent partial conclusions would
be useful.
As a provider of audit services, I am often confronted with unclear
documentation on licensing where there is
I do have a use case where being able to represent partial conclusions would
be useful.
As a provider of audit services, I am often confronted with unclear
documentation on licensing where there is
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Gary O'Neall
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#2077
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Keep partial conclusions out of license expressions (was: update on only/or later etc.)
But how many of those authors would use a partial-conclusion syntax if
it existed?
I expect most npm package authors are also core developers for the
packaged software and know the package license.
But how many of those authors would use a partial-conclusion syntax if
it existed?
I expect most npm package authors are also core developers for the
packaged software and know the package license.
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W. Trevor King
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#2076
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Finished testing license XML list (for now)
I just completed testing all of the license XML files against the license text from the current license list or text copied from the upstream “other web pages for this license”.
I found a few
I just completed testing all of the license XML files against the license text from the current license list or text copied from the upstream “other web pages for this license”.
I found a few
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By
Gary O'Neall
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#2075
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Re: update on only/or later etc.
David A. Wheeler:
Philippe Ombredanne [mailto:pombredanne@...]
Yes, there are a number of cases where it's important.
The usual reason is because I'm trying to link Apache-2.0 licensed code
David A. Wheeler:
Philippe Ombredanne [mailto:pombredanne@...]
Yes, there are a number of cases where it's important.
The usual reason is because I'm trying to link Apache-2.0 licensed code
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By
David A. Wheeler
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#2074
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Re: update on only/or later etc.
David:
You are bringing good points. Here are my counter points:
You are making assumption about what the common use case might be. To
me the common use case is more simply: what's the
David:
You are bringing good points. Here are my counter points:
You are making assumption about what the common use case might be. To
me the common use case is more simply: what's the
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Philippe Ombredanne
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#2073
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Re: update on only/or later etc.
Philippe Ombredanne:
Respectfully: There *IS* contention. I'm contending.
Sure, but all summaries, and all models, omit something. Indeed,
a SPDX license file *also* cannot capture all the
Philippe Ombredanne:
Respectfully: There *IS* contention. I'm contending.
Sure, but all summaries, and all models, omit something. Indeed,
a SPDX license file *also* cannot capture all the
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By
David A. Wheeler
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#2072
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EDL - Eclipse Distribution License
Hi,
I would like to now if this could make sense to add the "EDL - Eclipse Distribution License" to spdx ?
I ask the question because it seems this is a
Hi,
I would like to now if this could make sense to add the "EDL - Eclipse Distribution License" to spdx ?
I ask the question because it seems this is a
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By
Simon Bernard <contact@...>
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#2110
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Keep partial conclusions out of license expressions (was: update on only/or later etc.)
That makes sense to me, even if it doesn't work with GitHub's current
license-reporting API [1] or UI [2]. But confidence percentages are
part of Licensee's output [3], so the current limitation is
That makes sense to me, even if it doesn't work with GitHub's current
license-reporting API [1] or UI [2]. But confidence percentages are
part of Licensee's output [3], so the current limitation is
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By
W. Trevor King
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#2071
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SPDX at Leadership Summit in March
As you may know, the Linux Foundation Leadership Summit is in Sonoma, March 6-8. Additionally, there will be group meetings on the Monday before and Friday after for SPDX and Open Chain
As you may know, the Linux Foundation Leadership Summit is in Sonoma, March 6-8. Additionally, there will be group meetings on the Monday before and Friday after for SPDX and Open Chain
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By
Philip Odence
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#2070
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Re: update on only/or later etc.
David,
Speaking as the author of a fine license detection engine, I think
this is a red herring.
A license detection result can be: "I am 95% sure this is GPL-2.0-only
but it could be GPL-2.0+:
David,
Speaking as the author of a fine license detection engine, I think
this is a red herring.
A license detection result can be: "I am 95% sure this is GPL-2.0-only
but it could be GPL-2.0+:
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By
Philippe Ombredanne
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#2069
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Re: "unclear version" and OR-MAYBE operators (was: update on only/or later etc.)
[...]
I think there is no contention there at all.
A summary (e.g. a license expression) cannot ever capture all the
nuances of the details.... This is a lossy "compression" by construction...
...
[...]
I think there is no contention there at all.
A summary (e.g. a license expression) cannot ever capture all the
nuances of the details.... This is a lossy "compression" by construction...
...
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By
Philippe Ombredanne
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#2068
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Re: "unclear version" and OR-MAYBE operators
Sorry, hit send too soon :/. [2] was sent on Thu, 9 Nov 2017 11:54:14
-0800. [5] is at
https://lists.spdx.org/pipermail/spdx-legal/2017-October/002265.html
Cheers,
Trevor
--
This email may be
Sorry, hit send too soon :/. [2] was sent on Thu, 9 Nov 2017 11:54:14
-0800. [5] is at
https://lists.spdx.org/pipermail/spdx-legal/2017-October/002265.html
Cheers,
Trevor
--
This email may be
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By
W. Trevor King
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#2067
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"unclear version" and OR-MAYBE operators (was: update on only/or later etc.)
I think a copy of the GPL alongside source code (e.g. [1]) is
ambiguous. And the article you link mentions “confusion” in the URL,
“foggy” in the title, and “ambiguity” in the subtitle.
I think a copy of the GPL alongside source code (e.g. [1]) is
ambiguous. And the article you link mentions “confusion” in the URL,
“foggy” in the title, and “ambiguity” in the subtitle.
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By
W. Trevor King
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#2066
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Re: update on only/or later etc.
J Lovejoy [mailto:opensource@...]:
Yes indeed, that's my point :-).
The tools are currently *required* to be incorrect, because they cannot report the information they have ("I have GPL-2.0,
J Lovejoy [mailto:opensource@...]:
Yes indeed, that's my point :-).
The tools are currently *required* to be incorrect, because they cannot report the information they have ("I have GPL-2.0,
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By
David A. Wheeler
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#2065
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